[ SECRET POST #5480 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5480 ⌋

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[fscom]

02. https://i.imgur.com/ww5O673.jpg

[dancingmouse]

These are probably the same people that draw characters as fat/hairy/black, then claim that they "fixed" them.

[(Anonymous)]

The "I drew X character looking Diverse(tm), not because I'm actually interested in variant interpretations of the character but because I want to make a grand showing of being Not Like Other White People, clearly this is the most significant contribution to fixing social inequality anyone ever made" people drive me up the wall

[(Anonymous)]

oh man i saw someone get torn apart for exactly that not that long ago and it was glorious. they'd drawn rikku from final fantasy x with brown skin and black hair and claimed they were "making her look arabic because that's what the al bhed were based on" and then an actual arab told them how offensive that was because there are in fact many arabs who are light-skinned and blond and they were happy to see a depiction of a character of a race based on their ethnicity who looked like them instead of the standard "arabs are brown" misconception that most people have.

[(Anonymous)]

"Greek gods/goddess looking perfect because that's how Greeks used to think their deities looked back then? not in my yard!".

[(Anonymous)]

This is a thing? NGL, I'm giggling a little bit because it seems very, very tumblr.

[sparklywalls]

I know Hades gets it a lot. There’s little we actually know about him (nobody is keen to talk explicitly about the guy who’s in charge of a notably gloomy realm) and I’m cool with mythology being a case of there’s more than one story and different interpretations but…I also don’t like the insistence that it’s “wrong” to think he’s anything other than a sweetie who seduced Persephone in a nice way.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

Yeah! Everybody makes Hades a sad boi(TM) and that he and Persephone were OTP. Like...in most of the iterations of the myth she doesn't want to be there. Definitely not at first. In this I enjoy taking Disney's Hades, because he was petty AF, and that just sounds right with what we've heard about all the other gods i.e. they were just as petty and capricious as the humans who worshipped them.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

I definitely agree re:Persephone. But people treated Hades like he was literally Satan for so long, not because of anything he actually did or how he was thought to be, but because they couldn’t separate the role as god and king of the Underworld from the devil imagery that would only come later to society(and Disney’s portrayals of him didn’t help, even though I still am fond of them). So I’m enjoying the soft sadboi Hades we have now as a counter to that. I just wish people wouldn’t try to recontextualize his kidnapping of Persephone, just because they find him likable. He’s still basically the least *problematic* god in Greco-Roman mythology, and people familiar with them should understand that even then he couldn’t come out completely clean from those myths, because it was rare anyone did.

[(Anonymous)]

Hades WASN'T like that tho, in fact he was at least content with his area because it meant he didn't really have to deal with the others IIRC.

[(Anonymous)]

That's kind of how mythology works.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, the whole thing with writing down mythology and calling any single version the true version of the mythology is a really recent thing.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm pretty sure that tossing out the whole established millennia of what we know that the ancients actually said about their gods, and claiming that the purely and entirely original fanfiction of hadez_luvvr_69.tungle.hell, who has never cracked an actual mythology text in their life, is The Real and Correct Version Of What The Greeks Actually Believed, is not "how mythology works," but you do you I guess

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[(Anonymous)]

what the fuck, deciding that 4000 years of Greeks' conceptions of their gods is wrong and your hot take is right is actually Really Shitty.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think most modern depictions of mythology are that concerned with what the ancients actually said about the gods

[(Anonymous)]

Oh mannnn, lol. Welcome to modern fandom, op!

[(Anonymous)]

Basically the generation who saw Disney's Hercules and went "If they can bullshit their way out of the facts then so can I".

[(Anonymous)]

I commented up thread, but Disney's Hades is one of the portrayals I like. Disney's Zeus and Hera us some serious revisionist mythology to sanitize the whole "Zeus went around raping & whoring about, much to Hera's ire and vengeance upon the woman he got with". The pettiness of D's Hades is in line with the behavior the many of the other gods in Greek mythology

[meadowphoenix]

the s l a n d e r that has been laid on Demeter!!!! And the straight up rose-colored glasses on Hades re: Persephone.

[(Anonymous)]

There was this one post with over 150k notes that went like this:

icarus faked his death.
crawled onto the shore, skin
sparkling gold and reddened
and apollo said
“your dad won’t find us here.”

And I couldn't figure out what was so incredible, revelatory and beautiful about this that people in the notes were shaken to their core, like, did I miss some reference that would connect the dots?? but I guess it's just someone's fanfic poem of Icarus/Apollo and there's literally nothing more to it. I still don't understand why everyone loves it so much.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh. It's concise. Forbidden love (although really...ancient Greece? The gods? Homework wasn't done here). So really, the *idea* of forbidden love and two young people running away together. It's the gold.

But lol it's Apollo. Icarus's is a mortal. As if he'd have to go through all that. But I guess it's the feeling that people want to feel -- that getting to close too the sun did not in fact kill him, but brought him closer to what he truly wanted. If that was in fact the purpose of his wings.

I can see your point (I find it a bit trite and...it kinda makes me roll my eyes). At the same time, I'm not gonna take away from someone else's fun. Pretty imagery I guess for their Apollo/Icarus AU.

[(Anonymous)]

da. Yeah I'm lolling at the idea that Apollo would spend half a nanosecond caring what his mortal lust-object-of-the-moment's mortal dad thinks about their relationship, except maybe to turn the dad into an animal or tree or something if he decided he'd been insulted. He generally doesn't even care what the lust-object him/herself thinks!

[(Anonymous)]

My guess it's a combination of things:

* beautiful young man who was supposed to have died tragically overreaching himself turns out to have faked his death on purpose, so he was misunderstood and not merely a cocky youth who ignored his father's advice and died stupidly

* m/m

* the us vs. them of parents who just don't get it vs. kids who are beautiful snowflakes

* the us vs. them of bigots vs. gays in love


Because I mean... Apollo is a god. There's no need to fake anyone's death, he'd just show up, escort Icarus away from his father, The End.

[(Anonymous)]

Are people under the impression that Icarus was being help captive by his father rather than with his father?

[(Anonymous)]

Could be partly because in a way it's fix-it fic. The idea of being punished for overstepping your place (the outcome of the original story) is something that doesn't gel with people as much anymore, if "overstepping your place" isn't actually doing anything wrong besides making the higher-ups (gods) mad because how dare you. Icarus getting a happy ending after all would resonate with modern kids' values a lot more.