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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-01-16 04:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #5490 ]


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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2022-01-16 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
When the show was first revived I remember 'Dalek' getting a lot of praise for depicting a lone Dalek in the way it did, because that Dalek was as lost as The Doctor. And then you got the whole thing where Rose's input changed it and it decided to destroy itself rather than live as something its not.

I feel like that sort of story was fine when the show had just come back and you wanted to introduce some nuance for a new audience. But now it's like the writers have to tie themselves in ever tighter knots to maintain the "they're just irredeemably evil" thing while also introducing concepts that suggest there's capacity for change.

Personally I'm fine with the Daleks being straight up evil, it's generally how they were for most of the show's history and for what they are it just makes sense. I think that (perhaps) with the modern show we're experiencing that stagnation that comes with overusing a particular enemy and the fact that it's been fashionable for a while to have very grey areas in good-evil battles.

It's a while since I watched Twelve's run but iirc Davros himself kinda ended up dancing this line too.

(Anonymous) 2022-01-17 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
ngl, i know it's the done thing nowadays but i'm kinda over the gReY aReA

there's times i wish we could go back to "here's some good guys, here's some bad guys, now fight to the death" - i'm fast losing interest in tragic villains on oh so complex paths of redemption

i mean can you imagine how pathetic it would be if we ended up with a dalek as a companion
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2022-01-17 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I won't lie either, I love the villainous shades of grey but sometimes it's just not needed. Sometimes I don't need a tragic backstory or a rebellion against a creator. Sometimes things just ARE. I don't need shades of grey with Daleks.

Didn't we already kinda get the companion thing with Handles the Cyberman? I know he was reprogrammed, not truly a Cyberman and didn't do anything beyond Plot Requirement, but I always found it a bit odd Eleven was able to essentially find companionship in something that resembled something that had abused him so much. I mean, he basically turned Handles into Wilson from Cast Away.