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Yep.

What I don't get is I had someone say the other day that they found it nuts that so many people had "superstitious" beliefs about NFTs causing environmental harm, when actually NFTs and crypto are a great way to shake up the financial market.

Meanwhile a couple days ago on Twitter there was a video being passed around of some rich guy bragging about his new crypto farm, where he had like hundreds of processors running together. Which presumably he could get his hands on despite the chip shortage because he was already rich. And then he could use that to make himself rich in a different way.

I am not seeing how these are actually likely to add any sort of financial benefit. The people who already have real money will be the ones who can invest in it and make more money in a virtual format, and the rest of us will still be fighting for income that mega-corporations and landlords will accept to pay the freaking bills.

I think people are just in denial and don't want to admit that financial gain is often, and in the case of NFT always, to the detriment of someone/something else. People are in search of a easy way to get rich because we live in a moment of finalcial instability and it will only get worse from now on.
As you point out, only the already rich people can afford the investment to build a crypto farm and thus become even richer. Us poor (and often digitally ignorant) people are left to eat the dust. The income inequality and inflation will become worse and worse while the crypto bros will keep telling everyone how easy it is to gain money with ugly monkey jpegs while actively contribuiting to energetic and eviromental crisis.

Have you heard about Kazakhstan? That's what crypto is ALREADY doing. With NFTs it will become even more pervasive.
I'm sick of this.

NA What has crypto done to Kazakhstan??

Used up a full forty percent of the nation's electricity generation capability just to feed the server farms, leading to powercuts to the actual people living there. Followed by bloody revolution, and an invasion by Russia to "restore order".

How the hell hasn't this been in the news??

You're right, this does sound like the future coming in.

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Man, are you seriously telling me that in the USA you haven't heard about this? I kind of suspected it since I was not seeing a lot of discourse online, but damn. I'm in an western EU country and we had regular updates on the violences happening there. I bet the USA news outlets are not talking about it because it makes crypto look bad and a lot of American corporations are investing in that shit.

For further context: lately the cost of gas and electricity went way up in the old continent because of gas shortage, that's what kickstarted the Kazakhstan protests and why crypto is central in this.

NAYRT--I'm in the US, and had heard that a lot of crypto miners moved their operations to Kazakhstan after China cracked down on them, and driven up energy prices to insane levels, which pissed people off because it's so awesome to freeze to death so rich outsiders can buy the rights to urls of ugly ape pics.

And I know Russia has been eyeing its neighbors hungrily for awhile (witness Ukraine) but I didn't know Russia was using this particular excuse. Blech.

I'm curious if you heard about that through the internet or the broadcasted news.

Russia is been waiting for an excuse for years and it's blatantly more obvious each day that it'll try soon with any country it can. I think the gas crisis is their golden hour and I'm actually scared for all my eastern neighboors. What a life time...

AYRT--on the internet, but through my local PBS (Public Broadcasting Service) affiliate news website that pulls national and international news from NPR. Also I think Mother Jones covered it, and probably Politico and the Associated Press and similar outlets. Idk if cable news covers that sort of thing, though.

AYRT Even worse, I'm in the UK. Which makes it even more alarming we haven't heard about it. The US you expect it but it's deeply worrying to me that this isn't in the British news like at all.

Take it from a transperson, the British news is full of shit and exists mainly to keep the British people under control.

Does being a transperson make you an expert on international affairs then? I don't doubt that what you say about the news is true, it gets creepily more true every day. Just think that's a weird juxtaposition to make.

NAYRT
I think the anon above me is especially pissed at UK news due to the recent aggressive anti trans articles and propaganda by the BBC. Don't be too harsh on them. While yes, it's a weird justaposition to make, I think they're just too exhausted and feel under attack to see it.

I'm actually very surprised that the UK news didn't talk about that. WTF. We have VERY VERY biased news in the country, but at least we hear about the most important international affairs, especially the ones threatening the EU stability (ex. constant updates on Libia, Turkey, Russia, China etc). Are you guys having problems with bills cost going up because of the gas shortage, too? If not, maybe that's why it's completely ignored. In my country it's a very big issue and we're entering a new crisis because of that.
Or maybe you have a little pro Russia propaganda going on and they're sweeping the Cremlin's problems under the rugs.

There have been anti-trans articles on the Beeb recently?

Energy bills are going through the roof. There's little analysis in the news on it over here. I suspect it speaks to exactly how much Russia has got its tendrils into our politics. Which is frankly scary.

To my understanding there were also protests and walk outs (?) from LGBT+ people from the BBC due to discriminations on the work place agains trans people.

They are a huge platform supporting J.K.Rowling, which, OK, anyone should have the rights to say what they believe even if I disagree with them. BUT! The most egregious accident for me is an article from the BBC where some cis women claimed that trans women were a danger to their safety and they interviewed a cis lesbian woman who is a known SEXUAL PREDATOR. Fuck 'em. I can't find the same article now because I'm in a rush, but you can maybe check

jimsterling on twitter and search through their BBC mentions for it.

This is an example on the recent articles that I could easily find: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-57853385

They have pretty heavy transphobic tones.
I'm a cis lesbian. I am actually offended that someone wrote these articles trying to "defend" people like me.

I know about these accidents because I follow trans content creators like Philosophy tube, Stephanie Jim Sterling, Jessie Gender etc so I have no idea if this discourse is well known or not outside that bubble.

I'm a little concerned about the lack of anylisis on the gas shortage over there. When I have time I'll try and see if I can find something on the British news outlets. What a world we live in...

Eh, tbh I find the JKR debate unbalanced on both sides. I just avoid articles on her completely now, whichever POV it has. Disappointed to hear the rest of it though, especially about the sexual predator article. :(

I did a quick Google and found an article about Kazakhstan on the BBC. It was barely a few lines. Outside the BBC, I found numerous articles, mostly on tech sites, blaming energy shortages for the problems crypto miners are facing, but only a rare few linking the miners as the cause of the shortages. This massive blindspot that tech bros have for the environmental impact of their new shiny thing is equally depressing and alarming.

>>I find the JKR debate unbalanced on both sides.
I'm on you on this one. Too much back and white and us vs them rethoric on both sides. I don't agree with JKR, but I don't think treating her like either a saint or a complete devil is helping anyone. She's just a symbol now and I'm just tired of her.
I think that the only balanced view I saw on her and all that discourses are the video essays from Jessie Gender and Contrapoints. If you're not completely burned out and want to check them out: ContraPoints = https://youtu.be/7gDKbT_l2us Jessie Gender = https://youtu.be/XyODMw6Xm-8 not sure this is the video I intended on JKR specifically but she has a lot of valid empathetic views on other videos, especially the one regarding Buck Angels. Highly recommended.
(PS. I checked the article I linked, and that's the one with the sexual offender's interview, but it was cut off due to the backlash. You can read about it in the end notes of the article)

The tech bros NEED to have that delusion of not directly causing enviromental damage. Their lifelihood directly depends on that denial. SO yeah, I'm not surprised.
Even those who are more enviromentally conscious now spew out stuff like "But wait!!! They are working on a new blockchain system that will burn way less energy so it will be enviromentally friendly in no time!!!" but in the meantime.... and even if the blockchain will eventually burn off less energy it will probably still be at a very high energy expenditure, especially if the NFTs and crypto transactions keep on increasing.

So agree. I don't agree with her either, but I feel exactly as you do - demonising her and making her a Saint is not helpful. Thanks for the video links! I am totally burned out, but I could stir myself for an actual balanced view point.

It's not just tech bros that use that rationale to be fair. I've heard that delusion from just about everybody with a large environmental footprint attached to their lifestyle/life choices. People are waiting for tech to save us and it's not going to.

If have to watch one video I maybe reccommend ContraPoints's one, then. Jessie Gender is totally awesome and I love her, but her video on trans issues are maybe heavier and more emotional, while ContraPoints cuts the tension with her ridiculousness and being so extra. IDEK that video is very long, tho. so... no pressure.

You're totally right on pointing out that people with a more enviromentally friendly lifestyle use that rationale, too!
I think that people in general that blindly believe in the "carbon footprint" are delusional. It's not their fault. We as humans need something to attach to when we sense lack of control in our life and environment.
The carbon footprint is largely a lie feeded upon us consumers to trick us to consume like before or even more using the shame in our " individual complicity" of polluting the earth, while not addressing or even masking the systemic impossiblities of being more enviromentally friendly. It's all tightly connected to green washing and other tricks.
"Buy this car!!! You will feel better in your enviromentally conscious choices. It consumes less petroil/fossil fuel, but to build this car with new "green" technology we have to mine very rare minerals and trash all the old cars that circulated before, thus creating even more pollution!!!"
Even worse the green washing rethorics in the fast fashion industry. Sickening.

There are no REAL solutions in this model. The only real solution is probably global degrowth, but no government will ever want to do that or admit it's a solution.

I try to be enviromentally conscious because I try to respect where and with whom I live, but I'm aware that it's all out of my control now and while it's terrifying it's also liberating. Let it all collapse.
I sound very pessimistic and a total doomer, and on this particular subject I very much am.

All the reporting I've seen in the US (and there has been plenty, actually) was that the gas prices in Kazakhstan went up (in a petroleum-rich country where that shouldn't happen) and people revolted over that and burned things and Russia was asked to send in troops and we shouldn't assume this will prevent Russia from invading/threatening/posturing around Ukraine. This is the first I've heard of the NFT/crypto angle. I've never gotten the impression the US news media has a pro-crypto bias (more like everyone makes fun of crypto) but I can see everyone being too distracted by anxiety over the Ukraine to care about the specifics of *why* gas prices went up in Kazakhstan.

Thank you for your point of view! Appreciate it.

I might be biased here, being much more against NFTs and the current crypto market than warranted, but I noticed a slight bias pro crypto in the USA news. Again, I'm from the EU so I'm an outsider. I just read international and thus even the main American journals.
NOT IN FANDOM, NOT IN ART CIRCLES, NOT IN REDDIT etc but on the major jornals I think there is a pro cypto bias. Sometimes they gently mock NFTs and their stupid fads, but the majority of them don't address the problem with crypto and the enviromental cost. Some of them do, but not that much.
It's actually the same case here in my country (they actually touched the crypto angle in the Kazakhstan situation tho). So I'm under no impression that this might be an USA only phenomenon.

Again, I'M BIASED AT HELL. But this is my perception.
I really appreciate your post, though. Makes me see that I could be seeing malice where there isn't.

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