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⌈ Secret Post #803 ⌋

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[Toby Beecher/Chris Keller - Oz]

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[Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei]

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[Life with Derek]

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[NieA Under Seven]

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[xxxHOLiC]

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[Mai Hime]

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[The World Ends With You]

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[Super Smash Brothers/Fire Emblem]

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[X-Men]

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[Merlin]

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[Buffy, Degrassi, South of Nowhere, Skins]

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[Patrick Bateman, American Psycho]

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[Gossip Girl, Chuck/Dan]

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[Sailor Moon]

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[kings of leon]

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[Garth Marenghi's Darkplace]

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[Naruto, Avatar, Girl Genius, Harry Potter]

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[iCarly]

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[Luminous Arc 1]

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[Douglas Adams]

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Thanks :)

There's nothing wrong with having issues with a fandom, nor is there anything wrong with mentioning it. But do something about it and go about it in a civilized manner, like you are.

For all the love there is in this fandom, there are circles of people who openly dislike parts of it, but hey are not making hate memes or various secrets.

Some hate Tony as a woobie, some hate the Ultimates, some hate kid fic and mpreg, some have a squick in regards to a certain disease, or to unhappy endings. Some people feel Steve is prudish, other write him as merely private. Fans stay in their own circles and comfort zones, but its also a fandom fairly open to discussion as to why they feel this way.

It can also stem from the nature of the source material. Comics are so varied and open to interpretation and personal canon, who's to say what is exactly right wrong? My Tony might be different then yours, but that doesn't mean its the only one I will read, or that its better. Hey if the author is up for it, why not discuss it? Not to say randomly launch into a critique or anything, just start a polite conversation about it and go from there if they are willing. If not let it go and maybe don't read from the author next time. I've seen it happen.

Yes exactly, that's why I thought the character sheets would be a good idea -- to give facts about the characters without any bias towards any sort of characterization, while giving people a quick reference to the massive back canon.

And to the original poster -- Feel free to PM or IM me if you want to vent. I'm sure we have some common ground somewhere XD

Once we get things out into the open, it'll be a lot easier to fix, or at least attempt to fix.

In canon, Tony isn't really a woobie, per se. Yes he's sensitive, but people tend to write him as overly self hating (eating disorders, what?) and finding his only joy in Steve Rogers, which is not true. So, I thought the person had a point.

Personally, stuff like Mpreg, kid fic, etc, I'll just scroll on by.

The reason, I feel that people like making Tony into this extreme woobie is that he yes he has self hating issues. And they just take it and make it consume him so he's a victim, when in canon it often drives him to take extreme measures. In canon he forgets to eat because he's busy, because he forgets, whatever, so they take that and make it into an eating disorder. His moments of despair are taken to extremes, but alot of his self inflicted punishment is in the pursuit of something, rather then self inflicted pain for the sake of it. It's exaggerating canon as well as established fanon that many unfamiliar with the source material that turn him into this simpering wreck of a woobie. If canon hasn't broken him yet, you better put him through the goddamn ringer if you make him a nervous wreck that only Steve can save.

It's not hard to ignore what you don't want to read. I don't understand when it's a problem, it's not like the fandom is OMG over run and flooded with it.

I've never actually been sure what the specific definition of "woobie" is, beyond "character that is my favoritist evar whom I like to watch suffer beautifully," and the fact that everyone seems to think Rodney McKay is one for reasons which totally escape me.

I'm probably one of the people who woobifies Tony, though, if one uses "wuv him and like to watch him suffer beautifully" as a yardstick.

I fled from the eating disorders fic in open fear, because I just knew that it would a) probably be awful, given that it would take near god-like levels of talent to make that scenario work well and b) be incredibly triggering.

[ SECRET POST #803 ]

Re: 119 -maker of caprion_anon

Re: 119 -maker of caprion_anon

To be fair,

Re: To be fair,

Re: To be fair,