[ SECRET POST #5497 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5497 ⌋

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Name the fandom. And repeats, etc.

(If you think something in this thread is a troll, please ignore it! Conversation is fine, but OT wank makes stuff harder to keep track of in this thread. Thanks.)

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NS, NF, etc.

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Official advertise your fandom-related event thread.

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Games thread!

Transcript by OP

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I'm part of a hobby group. Which is great.
It bills itself as open and inclusive, and is. Which is great.
It's attracted a whole lot of non-neurotypical people who are having fun in it. Which is great.

It's also on the brink of collapsing because all said non-neurotypical people's dysfunctions do not play well with each other. Don't get me wrong: the people are great. But their collective disorders are hitting a critical mass and are starting to be unable to function as a team with each other. There is, in practical truth, a limit to how many people with BPD, PTSD, ASD, anxiety, depression, and so on that you can put into a group without everyone melting each other down into a mess.

Pointing this out would have people call me an ableist, however. And what solution could there be, to close the doors to people with disorders? I wouldn't and couldn't suggest that.

Maybe it's time to quietly find a new group. I know I wouldn't be the only one leaving.

[(Anonymous)]

Nice frock.

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[(Anonymous)]

Batten down the hatches, OP. Incoming.

[(Anonymous)]

One, I agree so much. And two, great pic choice.

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[(Anonymous)]

It kind of sounds like the solution is just... having rules and standards of behaviour and moderators able to enforce them? You can't and don't want to outlaw "being" a thing, but you can absolutely outlaw "doing" a thing if the thing hurts other people. Yes, a lot of time time peoples' bad behaviour (in the world, not just in this hobby group) can be attributed to a diagnosis, dysfunction or trauma that is not their "fault." That doesn't mean being a dick is allowed. And allowing behaviour that would be unacceptable from presumed-neurotypical people because someone has disclosed that they have a particular diagnosis is basically like saying that people with that diagnosis are just assholes and can't help their behaviour. Which is neither true nor fair.

I get that it's hard to be like "well, there were no rules before, but now there are rules and you'll be booted if you break them" all of a sudden, especially when things have been getting out of control for a while with no consequences for anyone. But... maybe something to look for wherever you end up next.

[(Anonymous)]

Every single fandom I am in right now is going through a monkey's paw phase. Best of luck.

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This is why I say gatekeeping is good, actually. The more "inclusive" a group gets, the more likely it is to collapse in drama. Then those still interested in it will congregate in little ring fenced private communities, which will gradually open up as memories fade, until someone agitates for it to be completely open, and the whole cycle of drama will repeat until it reaches the "Chris Chan" threshold again.

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On the one hand I agree, but I also think that online moderation is really, really hard even under the absolute best circumstances. And implementing rules where (a) there haven't been rules before (b) there's a lot of existing conflict and (c) there's no broad-based consensus for those rules - that's definitely not the best possible circumstances.

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Not saying neurotypical people don't have their own share of drama and bullshit, they 100% do, but I've been in situations where the main mod of a community would disappear for weeks at a time due to depression. The sub-mod who was supposed to organize events and collabs had/has severe ADHD and could not help dropping everything and anything. The latter was and still is a friend and an extremely wonderful and kind person but it was not a good time at all for anyone, that mod included. She said it was such a huge relief to step down and be replaced. And that's just two! I can't imagine a the chaos of a situation in which a large part of some kind of organized team project has similar issues. IDK what the solution is, though.

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I can’t say I’ve ever seen this. My experience is that the people who cause forum-ending drama cause it regardless of whether the people they’re fighting with are neurodivergent.

Guess the song from the opening line.

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Song and singer.
Easy one to start off with:
"Well, I left Kentucky back in '49"