[ SECRET POST #5506 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5506 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Every single one of my fandoms right now, OP. I feel yah.

[(Anonymous)]

Why?

[(Anonymous)]

Partly because the fandom is annoying. Really, really annoying.

But also, Star Wars really innovated the blockbuster and blockbuster franchise models that now dominate moviemaking, which I think have basically lead to less interesting movies coming out, and I think the franchise mindset has been really bad for geek culture. And Star Wars played a huge role in kickstarting science fiction as a massive mainstream audiovisual genre, which I think has had a negative effect on SF as a written genre by sucking up a lot of oxygen and attention, where SF in movies, film and video games gets treated by a lot of people as the main thing. And I personally really like SF as a written genre, so I think it's kind of a bummer that that happened. And I still like the movies themselves! But a lot of the ways they've been a model for the culture and the entertainment industry have been kinda bad from my point of view.

[meadowphoenix]

I feel you on most of this, but I'll say that the franchise model is less Star Wars and more the corporatization of movie studios in the 80s. I don't think you can view Star Wars as either franchise or blockbuster without Jaws or Indiana Jones, and I several franchises like Back to the Future, would have happened without Star Wars. Blame Spielberg and all his friends instead But yeah, I think it has kinda sucked some of the wonder out of sci-fi.

[fizzyrose]

Not all franchises are bad. I think the problem is considering anything even mildly successful can and should be a franchise and the recent obsession with multiverses (which I hate more than just added more numbers).

Some stories are just done once you finish telling them. And we should all be okay with that.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that Star Wars didn't single-handedly create the blockbuster model. But I do think that it was really important in creating it, mostly just because of the sheer mountain of money it and Empire made. Star Wars and Empire made a lot more money than Jaws and Jaws 2, and Jaws and Jaws 2 made a lot of money.

And even with Raiders, I think Star Wars probably made some contribution to Raiders getting made - I've read that out of the two of them, Lucas was considered more trustworthy than Spielberg at that point, in part because Spielberg was coming off 1941 which didn't do great.

[(Anonymous)]

I still love most of the Star Wars canon, but have come to actively loathe large portions of the fandom.

[philstar22]

Yup. I mostly avoid the Star Wars fandom (and the Doctor Who fandom as well) because the intense negativity, entitlement, and silencing of different opinions has ruined the fandom for me. And I don't want the movies, tv, and books themselves to be ruined.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Same here, and I'm getting there with MCU fandom for the same reasons. I still love the movies and some of the shows, but more and more, the fandom is not a place where I want to play and I don't want the things I still love to be ruined.

[(Anonymous)]

Provoking controversy within a fanbase for the sake of publicity and headlines only works for so long, then when it stops it really stops.

[(Anonymous)]

Lmao with the DW fandom I just stick to the Big Finish/VNA/EDA and Classic Who sides of the fandom. They tend to be fairly chill (though I still have to be selective in Who I follow to avoid negativity about New Who) and I mostly write BF stuff now anyways lmao.

[ibbity]

I was initially excited to learn that there was going to be more Star Wars, lost excitement when I found out it was now owned by and under the control of Disney, and have been thoroughly sorry that it ever got reanimated as a film franchise ever since the second new movie came out. Disney doesn't know when to quit and I dislike much of what they've done, plus the mainstream fandom is unbelievably unpleasant and there's like...nowhere I can really go to get away from The Discourse

[(Anonymous)]

Big same, OP, big same.