[ SECRET POST #5510 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5510 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Ugh, yes, it is very annoying to always have to explain to people that when I say "I like spy fiction" I really don't mean James Bond. George Smiley is basically the anti-Bond and that's exactly what I want.

[(Anonymous)]

I take my hat off to you, anon, for being able to write comlpicated and realistic spy fic. Me, I couldn't do it to save my life and I found Le Carre hard to follow even when I had the concentration for that sort of stuff. But man, I'm in awe of that kind of fic\tion.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you on ao3? I love spy!au, especially serious ones, but people rarely write them well. If you don't want to de-anon what fandoms are you in? I really would like to read some spy au

(though frankly, people don't really do well with parody spy stuff too. I would now, I tried to find decent Genghis Khan video fic)

[meadowphoenix]

Le Carre is one of the greats but yass the whole 60s/cold war/"spies who think spying is actually going to destroy the world no matter what because everyone truly sucks" genre is sooo good and actually fits the "cynical spy" trope so much better than Bond. Bond's barely a spy to me frankly, but maybe Fleming was having more fun than Le Carre in british intelligence. WWII spying probably was more novel than the Cold War.

[(Anonymous)]

Fleming was basically writing action thrillers, and he knew it. I don't think he was basically trying to be realistic.

I actually think it could be really interesting to see a spy AU that was based on Bond vibes, but specifically the vibes from the 50s/60s Fleming novels (or at least what was left of them after removing the hideous racism etc). It's very different from the modern Bond movies, or the Mission Impossible / Bourne Identity superspies stuff which I think is probably the most dominant in pop culture right now.

Of course I also totally agree that a Le Carre or Len Deighton or Eric Ambler inspired espionage AU could be completely amazing as well.

SA

[(Anonymous)]

Actually now that I think about it, people writing espionage AUs nowadays would probably be doing Americans-type stuff more than anything else.

Re: SA

[meadowphoenix]

The Americans is a pretty good middle ground honestly and probably easier to build up around fandom. I wouldn't mind those either though it's set a lot later. I've found that when fandoms do something less bond, they're more "my own government is after me"/burn notice types, a little James Grady Six Days a little Bourne. But yeah, I still want early cold war.

Haven't read any Deighton, thanks for the rec!