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I think it at least started with his vitiligo. Just his... issues, and that he was so rich that nobody was willing to say no to him, meant he ran away with it. Michael Jackson needed an adult presence in his life, even after he became an adult, but none of the adults in the room were prepared to act like one. It was tragic really.

So much this. I grew up with his music and his videos and his general celebrity presence around the pop culture world, and to me it always seemed like he never got to have an real childhood and wanted to recapture what he missed out on with Neverland and whatnot - but also never having a real childhood meant he never truly figured out (healthy) adulthood.

none of the adults in the room were prepared to act like one.
this is a weird thing to say. I'm sure plenty of doctors denied him, which is the only "adult" action anyone could take that they had any right to. You only need one asshole. As for the rest, well people weren't yes men (just) because he was rich, people were yes men because he was a highly effective, wildly cunning adult businessman who deliberately arranged his life so that he was in control of it. It's very weird to suggest that people using their autonomy badly, unethically, unreasonably, aren't adults and don't know what they're doing, when they usually, and in this case also, know exactly what they're doing.

This ^^^

I think maybe anon means the people who could have pulled him up on it, like his parents?

Still yeah, you make a good point.

i think my point is that anything his parents could do would have had to be with his agreement, and there was no point in his solo career that he was taking his parent's advice. they have no power over him inherently (and further any power they did have would have been a result of his father's abuse and his mother's complacence thereby so calling that "adult" is questionable).

They were yes men because he was a celebrity. If he had fired the people who worked for him, or they worked for someone else and he threw a shitfit and had them fire, they'd suddenly get a reputation of being "difficult to work with" and no one would have anything to do with them. They wouldn't just be out of a job, they wouldn't be able to get another one either.

And no, doctors didn't deny him anything, unless they were interested in losing all their rich clients.

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meadowphoenix - 2022-02-09 03:08 (UTC) - Expand

I don't think it was "on purpose" at all. I think he started lightening his skin to even out the tone. But yeah, overall the cosmetic procedures got away from him.

Will the crazy fans show up or stay away this time?

I have a bad feeling at least one will show up eventually...

That's pretty goddamn offensive to state that someone gave themselves an autoimmune disease on purpose, using cosmetic procedures as "proof" vs medical history.

He may have bleached his skin to even out the tone, but there's no proof he gave himself the vitiligo.

I really hope you are a troll. 9/10 if so. If you're serious, you need to do some soul searching.

I think the OP meant he lightened his skin on purpose. It's not even possible to give yourself vitiligo and nobody would want to.

You can't give yourself vitiligo. Whether or not he had vitiligo and tried to skin bleach to even it out, that was the very least of his problems. (My aunt has vitiligo and Michael Jackson is really not what vitiligo looks like.)

No one is saying that he gave himself vitiligo.

vitiglio does not make your nose fall off

Are you saying he had leprosy?

No, that he had too many rhinoplasties.

I mean, I think his autopsy report said he had vitiligo and all? You can have a genuine condition AND go way too far with cosmetic procedures.

Right? Not sure why this is such a difficult concept.
Might have something to do with the whole weird fandom climate of vitiligo being the fancy unicorn skin condition to add to everyone in fanart coupled with the whole overblown body positivity trend that tends to go into "how dare you not love all the conditions you suffer from" territory in some corners.

And it seems his son Prince Michael has it as well, that was a big story in 2010 but seems to have sort of poofed.

I swear, when I first read this, I thought you were talking about Spider-Man's MJ, and I was confused. Anyway, do I believe his skin was pale all over because of vitiligo? No. Do I think that he could have used makeup and skin-lightening creams, at least in part, because he had patches of lighter skin due to vitiligo? Yes.

While Michael Jackson was rich enough to have paid for his dermatologist to give him whatever diagnosis he wanted, his dermatologist seems like a well-respected doctor, and I am inclined to believe his diagnoses (vitiligo and lupus) over people who have decided others' medical conditions based on their appearance.

Well his dermatologist was the mother of at least one of his kids so...

She diagnosed him a case of the daddy.

Unrelated to the real topic but I thought you were talking about the newest version of MJ Watson played by Zendaya and was pretty confused.

My mum has vitiligo and when I was a child (who hadn't even noticed there was any difference in her appearance to anyone else's) she explained it to me using MJ as an example. That someone she admired had it made her feel more comfortable in her own skin. Despite the arguments over whether MJ's was real, I'm grateful there was a famous person she could relate to in something she was deeply nervous about.

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