[ SECRET POST #5515 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5515 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Except the use of certain tropes in the romance you produce and consume absolutely can say something about you as a person. I used to read a lot of "man turns into a woman, and has to have sex with another man to turn back" type of fics back in the day, and I've come to realize that the reason I was obsessed with that trope was because the idea of gay romance and sex disgusted me, so I looked for a way to pair up my favourite white boys in a way that felt appropriately heteronormative to me at the time. Once I've warmed up to slash fiction and got over my irrational prejudice towards gay couples, I never felt like looking at genderswap fics ever again. And I'm hardly the only slash fan who admits to having changed their views towards real life gay couples thanks to slash fiction. Experiences like ours don't invalidate experiences like yours, but neither does your experience erase our own. And with strangers on the internet, I can never tell at first sight which type of person I'm dealing with, when I'm reading a tropey, stereotypical, and downright offensive depiction of homosexuality in fiction.

The reason I'm bringing up conservatives is because, like it or not, they are a significant presence in the world and they, too, read and write fiction, and color it with their views.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think your views on homosexuality changed solely because of slash fiction. If every person you knew and liked or saw in the media in real life held and espoused the view that homosexuality was disgusting, slash fiction wouldn't make you think it was okay, because even the people writing it would be making it clear that they only liked it as fiction and didn't support it in real life. You changed your mind because slash portraying it as okay aligned with the sentiments you heard from all decent people in real life, including most writers of such fic.

Reading fiction where, for instance, first-degree murder is portrayed as cool, is never going to make you think real life murder is cool. Because most people who write about it that way are not real life murderers and don't talk about how they think their murdering protagonist is a good person doing the right thing, and murder is agreed upon as a bad thing by almost everyone you will ever meet. The exact thing portrayed in the fiction, and how it's treated by society at large, matters way more than the fact that it's being written about to begin with.

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DA

This topic has always been complicated, because sometimes it can be difficult due to differences in certain people and situations. Fiction both does and doesn’t influence real life, depending on the circumstances. But I don’t ever like it when it’s assumed that people are influenced by the fiction they consume, or are putting their own beliefs into the fiction they write. Not unless there’s evidence that the person has a tenuous grasp on reality, or has a known history of inserting their personal views into their work

Either way, I agree with you completely on this. Your comment was very well written, and I like the cut of your jib!

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SA

I literally live in a country which bans "gay propaganda" and all decent people in my life would never say a single positive word about gay people. Yes, my views were changed entirely by slash fiction and comments from people justifying its existence that I've read online.

[(Anonymous)]

That was meant to be AYRT, this is SA

I will add more: if fiction never had an effect on people, then my country would not be hellbent on banning it. The reason it's banned and foreign media translated into our language are censoring it, is precisely because of the role gay fiction plays in normalizing gay relationships in the culture. Which is what conservatives don't want to see.