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⌈ Secret Post #809 ⌋

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Yes, Sam said that. I don't see how saying the truth about someone somehow negates caring about them. If anything, that should show more care since he's actually taken the time to take into account Dean's fragile emotional state. Obviously Sam's not too busy juicing up to save Dean's life in those last two episodes, therefore helping save the apocalypse... Sam is there for his brother, hence him trying to save him in every way that he can.

It certainly is Castiel's fault that he didn't make sure that his trap was in place and was completely impenetrable. And were was he in all those minutes that Alastair was beating the crap out of Dean and trying to kill him? Filing his nails?

Sam was obsessed with killing Lilith because she killed his brother. And he still wants her dead because there is no reason she won't show up out of nowhere and kill Dean again. Sam's scared too, but instead of not doing anything like Dean, he's actually taking measures to make sure he doesn't have to be scared for the rest of his life.

And while I love Castiel I don't think it will turn into Dean and Castiel with Sam as a side character, I think Sam will be taken to a dark place and have to pick himself back up again. I think that him and Dean will find their way back to being brothers but on a more even ground then ever before.

Agreed. :)

Honestly, if the show had stayed just two brothers on the road hunting things for 4 seasons I would have stopped watching, things need to build, characters need to grow, and that is what has happened.

Double agreed! This isn't Desperate Housewives or something where it's just the same plots again and again. I think Kripke and the other writers and the boys would be SO BORED by now if it was just season one every year and it never would have been picked up for this long. I'm glad they've gotten a chance to grow and evolve as it goes on.

Yes, Sam said that. I don't see how saying the truth about someone somehow negates caring about them.

What shocked me is how callous he seemed. I'd been expecting Sam to be worried for Dean because he was being forced to use skills he'd learned in Hell, torturing souls, during the most traumatic, awful, nightmarish years of his life. I thought Sam was going to fight to get Dean out of there because of how emotionally devastating the experience was sure to be. Instead, he said that Dean wasn't strong enough to make Alastair talk. He said it like that was his only concern, and if he thought Dean could get the job done, he'd just sit and wait until the angels returned him. I think Sam still loves Dean, but damn. That was cold.

It certainly is Castiel's fault that he didn't make sure that his trap was in place and was completely impenetrable.

But... he did. The trap was completely impenetrable - to demons. Castiel couldn't have predicted that an angel would sabotage the trap, because he had no idea there were traitors in the Host.

And were was he in all those minutes that Alastair was beating the crap out of Dean and trying to kill him? Filing his nails?

The beatdown took place in a torture chamber. I'm pretty sure sounds of violence didn't strike Castiel as out of place.

I guess we're just interpreting the scene differently because I didn't think it was cold at all. I saw a lot of love and concern and worry when Sam was talking about Dean not being able to do it. *shrugs* Mileage may vary, I guess.

he trap was completely impenetrable - to demons.

Yes, but it was at risk from the perilous treachery of tap water...

Dean was alone in a room with an EXTREMELY dangerous demon who enjoys torture and would stop at nothing to kill Dean. Castiel could have at least checked in on him occasionally. There was no reason for him not to keep an eye on him at all time. What else is more important than making Alastair talk and keeping Dean safe?

Yes, but it was at risk from the perilous treachery of tap water...

Heh. Okay, but the point is that if Uriel hadn't been a traitor, the tap wouldn't have been turned, the trap wouldn't have failed and Alastair wouldn't have been freed. Castiel isn't to blame for Uriel's actions. He did what he could, trap-wise.

Castiel could have at least checked in on him occasionally. There was no reason for him not to keep an eye on him at all time.

Yup, because if I was using a loathed skill-set to interrogate my demonic mentor in torture, I would want an angel dropping in to observe me using my talents. I think Castiel staying out of the room was the respectful thing to do, as respectful as he could be under the circumstances. And he might have been late to the party - because like I said, there's not anything off about what he would have heard coming from that room - but he did show up in time to save Dean's life.

Dean was still at risk though. I mean, chalk isn't exactly the strongest substance known to mankind. If a leaky pipe can break it, then Alastair could have spit at it or bled on it and it would have probably had the same effect. And we know he was doing quite a bit of both. Castiel could have at least splurged for some paint...

I know there was a window in the door. Were there any others? I wasn't really looking. Regardless, there was still a way to watch over him. I think Castiel just got a tad too cocky about his own skill, which almost cost Dean his life. And he wasn't exactly saving him much either. Alastair was about to send Castiel back to heaven and continue killing Dean when Sam showed up and saved the day.

Saving people doesn't exactly seem to be his strong suit. ;)

Castiel sucks at the hand-to-hand, but Dean was being strangled and would have been dead before Sam arrived had Castiel not come in. *shrugs* I don't think he was being irresponsible or careless or cocky, unless you're defining cocky as thinking his supposedly unbreakable devil's trap wouldn't break, in which case we can agree.

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