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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-03-24 06:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #5557 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5557 ⌋

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[Chrissie Hynde and Ali Campbell from UB40]


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[Spyro: Year of the Dragon]


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[Image is from Eureka SeveN]


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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2022-03-25 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
I believe the Japanese is actually closer to the original Greek pronunciation than what English settled on with "Yoo-REE-ka,"
It's better in stress, but not vowel sound. Both incorrectly pronounce the "eu" at the beginning because it's an aspirated (similar to herb or hour) and a dipthong (so treated as one syllable but not exactly said as one vowel). The acute accent is on the "eu" so that's the stress, but the "e" in eureka is actually is actually η or eta in εὕρηκα and that is long (specifically a long e, though not so in modern greek). Long-long-short isn't necessarily a common scansion for a lot of greek words, so I'm not surprised other languages have tried to resolve it in different ways.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2022-03-25 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
So how does it sound if you say it aloud? Can you write it phonetically? Because I only know what a diphthong is when I google it (for the billionth time because my brain won't hold onto it), and of course, Greek letters/pronunciation are ....all Greek to me.

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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2022-03-25 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
so you know how you sorta breathe out when you begin to say the "h" at the beginning of a word? life a huff almost? the word begins with that huff, not the full h, just the huff. I'm not sure writing it phonetically would get that across.

HUE-ree-ka is the way I was taught during university.
HUE-reh-ka is apparently also acceptable, and probably more prevailing now.


first syllable:
if you were to say it in extreme slow motion it would be: eh-you elided (with the huff of air first). However, in regular speech it's closer to hew/hue with the "h" barely spoken. Emphasis is here.

second syllable:
tbh, regarding "η" I know I was taught that it was long e as in "ee" but apparently that's the subject of some controversy (so english and japan as equally correct here lmao), so I gave you both versions, the second being the IPA version.

last syllable:
ca, like the sound a crow makes without the "w", slides off/weaker than the rest of the word
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2022-03-25 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Innnnnteresting! Thank you. :D I did not know there was any controversy over the pronunciation of this word, but...that's America for you.

I remember reading 'Goodbye Mr. Chips', and the 'controversy' in that book between Mr. Chips and the new head of the school over Latin pronunciation, which I *also* had no idea was a 'thing'.

To be fair, I was....12? when i read that, so not like Latin was looming large in my life, or anything, but up until that time, i hadn't really thought about it was pronounced, as I was too ignorant to know that people actually studied and spoke it like any other language.
Thanks again! This is neat. :D
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2022-03-26 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
For once, it's not an America thing, it's more of how much of Greek by way of Latin is useful thing.

I think every academic subject needs a couple good rousers for all the conferences they have, ha ha.

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2022-03-26 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee! I think so, too. :D