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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-03-30 04:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #815 ]


⌈ Secret Post #815 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.
[Weird Al Yankovic and Stephen Colbert]


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[Yu-Gi-Oh]


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[Rachael Maddow]


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[The Office]


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[Phantom of the Opera]


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[previously linked wrong]


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[hunter s. thompson]


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131. [repeat]


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[Hotel Babylon]


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137. [repeat]


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[jake hurwitz]


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[but why not the men?]


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[Naruto]


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[Naruto]


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[Jade Goody]


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[previously linked wrong]


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[High School Musical]



Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 11 pages, 275 secrets from Secret Submission Post #116.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 4 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - doing it wrong ].
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Re: 119.

[identity profile] columbuscrab.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
He wasn't stalking Christine; at least, not in the beginning. In the beginning he was her teacher, someone she trusted and (in my opinion) held affection for (whether or not those feelings were romantic is up to interpretation. Personally I think she thought of him more as a father, he took care of her).

It was when he couldn't find a proper outlet for his frustration that things started to go downhill. What's romantic isn't the fact that he killed for her, or followed her, or tried to force her to be with him by threatening her boyfriend. What's romantic is how someone so flawed and so horribly messed up by other people could come to care for someone that much. He really did love her, so much so that his love consumed him.

That's what's romantic about it.

And honestly, I don't see why people are surprised to find that this sort of adoration and dedication appeals to others-- there are a lot of people who feel unloved and lonely, and to want to have someone care that much about you isn't that unrealistic or strange to me.

Re: 119.

(Anonymous) 2009-03-31 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
You would probably think Edward of Twilight is romantic too.

Ew.

Re: 119.

[identity profile] columbuscrab.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, no. A thousand times no. I like to read literature that doesn't seem like it's written by a fourteen-year-old's text message.

Re: 119.

(Anonymous) 2009-03-31 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't say you like Twilight, just how Edward behaves (stalkerish and controlling) as romantic. He's devoted to her, right? So that makes it ok.

Re: 119.

[identity profile] columbuscrab.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Um. No? I haven't read the books (other than what few pages I could stomach out of the first one) but doesn't he want to eat her? Like, "get in my belly!" kind of eat her?

That's... uh, not quite devotion. I actually have no idea what to call that, but I'm pretty sure it's not devotion when you actually want to harm the person you're interested in. Doesn't he abuse her physically?

As far as I know, Erik never abused Christine physically, just scared her a lot.

Re: 119.

(Anonymous) 2009-04-02 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG!

And wanting to kill people she loves and cares for is totally OK because he doesn't actually hurt her! He scares the bejesus out of her a lot, manipulatates her, controls her, is possessive of her, even grooms her... Now that is devotion, but not the romantic kind.

That's what we call emotional and psychological abuse, it can fuck you up just as much and sometimes more than physical abuse. You really don't get it. You are exactly what this secret is talking about.

Re: 119.

(Anonymous) 2009-04-03 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
God, I love it when people completely disregard my point. Seriously. It's the best.

I'm not saying that killing people is romantic, or that how he treats her is indicative of a healthy relationship. Read my posts. I never said that I approved, or found it appealing.

The fact that you people love to continuously overlook is that Erik did everything he could think of to show Christine how much he loved her. He was a messed up guy, for sure, but he loved her SO FUCKING MUCH that he would do ANYTHING to keep her.

It's the DEVOTION, not his actions, the fact that he loved her enough to do anything for her, is what I find romantic.

Besides, I'm not asking you to agree with it. I'm just demonstrating that not all people who find the story romantic are enamored with men who would treat them poorly.