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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-03-30 04:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #815 ]


⌈ Secret Post #815 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.
[Weird Al Yankovic and Stephen Colbert]


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102. [repeat]


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[Yu-Gi-Oh]


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107. [repeat]


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108.
[Rachael Maddow]


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110.
[The Office]


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[Phantom of the Opera]


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[previously linked wrong]


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127.
[hunter s. thompson]


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131. [repeat]


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134.
[Hotel Babylon]


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137. [repeat]


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[jake hurwitz]


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[but why not the men?]


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[Naruto]


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[Naruto]


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[Jade Goody]


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[previously linked wrong]


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[High School Musical]



Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 11 pages, 275 secrets from Secret Submission Post #116.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 4 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - doing it wrong ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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Re: 125

(Anonymous) 2009-04-02 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
They don't usually have to prove anything, I generally don't engage in such discussions because people are so defensive and I don't like to argue. Hence I'm anon. You see people around enough and you see their comments and 'how' they hate. As I said, I don't like all female characters either, sometimes because I don't connect with them, but I don't hate on them and call them Sues and rage about them and call them sluts and say how they should die or be raped. I mostly ignore them, which would seem a normal response to a character I have little or no interest in.

But if you hate pretty much all female characters and seem to only hang in or enjoy canons with out them in (and use that as a defense) etc. etc and this seems to be a pattern I see, I judge you, yes. And I feel no shame. A lot of this sort of sexism and misogyny is unconscious and there because of the society that we are raised in, but when you are confronted with it, don't try and defend it, examine it and work against it.

And please don't use the old stale argument of trying to make this about men. Men are not heavily under-represented (in fandom and canon) or overly judged and hated as characters as female characters are in fandom. We can talk about that sort of equality once we actually have equality. But generally, if people are batshit insane in the way they hate characters, male or female, I tend to avoid them or think they are batshit insane. But I have never in all my years in fandom, come across a fan that hates almost all the male characters and loves the female ones. If they exist, they are rare and not really worth a mention. In other words, please to be leaving that straw man under your bed and away from this discussion.

Re: 125

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2009-04-02 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
We can talk about that sort of equality once we actually have equality.

I'm not talking about gender equality. I'm talking about liking or disliking a character based on their own merits. No straw man at all.