fandomsecrets | [ SECRET POST #816 ]

⌈ Secret Post #816 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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You want to know how to stop this kind of "takeover?" Do NOT kowtow to anything your fannish newbies say, no matter what it is. "Kowtow" doesn't mean "agree" - which, of course, happens a lot in fandom and makes friendships possible (as well as some civil disagreement). Earned agreement is good. I'm talking about humbling anything you say before their interpretation, like they're the Enlightened faction and deserve to be in charge. They can bring up NOTHING that fandom oldies haven't already discussed to death, with respect to meta subjects, LOL.

I've been a Trek fan for almost 20 years. I don't want to see it warped and ripped up, either. New ideas are a great thing, but total disregard for the "oldies" in a fandom makes me want to slap a bitch.

(Yeah, I know what it's like to watch new fans swarm across a fandom already largely peaceful and comfortable, and hack and cut at it and divide, divide, divide, until it damn near breaks. And no, this new crop of fans will NOT be just like when the Next Gen "trekkers" got into Trek back in 1987. The Internet has changed manners, discussion methods, and the type of people attracted to "geek" fandoms.)

I can't wait for all of the brand spanking new TOS fanbrats. Sarcasm goes here.

Look I know our fandom is sort of the ur-example of the Mary Sue but I am not interested in the explosion of shitfic that is going to come of all this...

I think I know what you mean. I don't mind the idea of new fic - some of it will be great and oldie Trek fans will wonder how they ever got by without it for 40 years. That goes double for thoughtful, respectful discussion. But I have seen more than one fandom buckle under the weight of new people who storm in yelling "WE KNOW BETTER THAN YOU DO, OUT OF OUR WAY, DINOSAURS!" It sounds old-fashioned of me, but frankly, the best way to get into an existing fandom is to sit yourself in the middle of it, read and listen for a while to other fans, and start small with discussions and fic. (Yeah, I've been the new kid coming into old Trek fandom myself at one time. I didn't agree with some of their POVs, but I didn't express that by starting off telling them what backwards assholes they were, either. You have to wait a little while to do that. *G*)

I so know what it's like being new to the Trek fandom. I'm only 21, I didn't get seriously into fandom until I was in my teens but I'm also not stupid enough to think I'm omg always ryte! Cause you know, I can do that part later.

Oh well, the movie gives me an excuse to line up for hours in my costume.

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