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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-03-31 04:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #816 ]


⌈ Secret Post #816 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 09 pages, 202 secrets from Secret Submission Post #116.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: 151

[identity profile] dragoon1940.livejournal.com 2009-04-01 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with you on that - TOS, TNG, DS9, etc., does hold up. It's good sci-fi. But the universe itself, what's been done with it (especially in Enterprise and Nemesis), has staled. It's become formulaic. I didn't mean that the old stuff was stale - simply that the stuff Paramount was putting out just before this wasn't very good.

I don't think a whole new crew would've worked. Maybe for a TV show, but not for a feature-length movie. And even then, probably not, if they'd stuck with the same formula they'd been using. Things needed to be shaken up and I think this reimaging is what's needed. The actors don't look one hundred per cent like the old ones? So? You're not going to find anyone like that.

And their personalities have shifted (slightly) because the time-line itself is being screwed with.

And really? That's the problem with the Star Trek franchise. Canon has become so sacrosanct and so much has already been written that there's really not any wriggle room left. I say to Hell with canon if they can tell a good story and give me the feeling of Star Trek. And I do not agree with you that they are bastardizing those characters in the least. I trust J.J. Abrams, I trust the writers, and most of all I trust Leonard Nimoy. He signed onto it, he must've liked it.

Re: 151

(Anonymous) 2009-04-01 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
Considering the intent of the movie is to draw new fans, I don't see how a new crew couldn't work. The target audience are people who aren't familiar with the TOS crew or any other crew. They could shake things up just fine by creating whole new characters. In fact, Bryan Fuller keeps talking about doing just that and I hope he does because if anyone could do justice to refreshing the franchise it's him.

It isn't a matter of the actors not looking like the original cast, it's the matter of someone being too lazy to give Chris Pine and Karl Urban contacts, Anton Yelchin a wig, and slap some yellow make up up Zachary Quinto. Those seem like pretty simple details they could've bothered with. Small details, I know. Aside from Spock not being yellow-green, I really don't understand that.

And honestly, how is this a big shake up when they're reusing time travel for the umpteenth time? Not to mention they were suppose to be using the Guardian from City on the Edge of Forever. Yeah, I can really see how this isn't formulaic and a totally fresh concept.

If you're going to say to hell with the canon, then get a new crew. Like seriously, what is the point of keeping the same character names but throwing their personalities and their histories out the window? I can see absolutely no logic in that.

Re: 151

(Anonymous) 2009-04-01 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
how is this a big shake up when they're reusing time travel for the umpteenth time

THIS. I heard it was a time travel story and I very loudly groaned and rolled my eyes. It's been done to death.