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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-04-18 05:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #5582 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5582 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-04-19 11:56 am (UTC)(link)
Megumi being old enough to fight and kill in a setting where people are frequently trained for that kind of thing starting relatively young doesn’t really mean Megumi is suddenly able to consent if he’s still underaged. That’s not really how it works. That’s like saying the same thing about Naruto pre-timeskip. Same with Megumi being mature for his age in looks or demeanor.

Don’t get me wrong though, all that is just if you reply real world logic to this and treat these characters like they’re real though. Megumi isn’t real, and you aren’t doing anything wrong by shipping him with Gojo, not matter what antis say. So you don’t really need to justify why you think it’s okay to shop FushiGo, because it just is okay. I’m more of a fan of FushiIta/ItaFushi, but I like Gojo with both Megumi and Yuji too, especially if Gojo bottoms.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-19 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I get what you mean but he is also able to legally consent both in the country the story takes place in AND in the country I live in so that's generally a non-issue for me. I just always think it's a weird double standard (that is, in my experience, very American) that violence and murder = totally okay but anything even remotely sexual = evilbadwrong protect the children.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-19 01:51 pm (UTC)(link)
That’s not completely true that’s it’s totally legal for an adult to date a minor if they’re over 13 in all of Japan, but it’s not completely untrue either. It is still frowned upon even in Japan for an adult more than 10 years of age to date a minor, but it’s definitely only truly illegal across all prefectures if they’re under 13. On the surface. For instance, at one point(and possibly still a thing) in Tokyo there’s something called the Youth Protection Act that considers anyone under 18 a minor, and on paper prohibits adults from dating over 18 from dating anyone under 18. It doesn’t seem to be enforced strictly though, which is why I say it’s prohibited on paper. It’s all very complicated, and I’m not going to pretend I understand all of it completely, but here’s some articles if you’re interested, because they can explain things better than I can(although some of them may be outdated at this point, because legal matters change all the time):
https://www.worldatlas.com/amp/articles/what-is-the-age-of-consent-in-japan.html
https://myotakuworld.com/why-japanese-teens-can-get-arrested-for-dating/
https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/japan


Either way, I still think that real life age of consent laws shouldn’t affect fic and fanart, so it should really be a non-issue if someone ships Megumi and Gojo. Keyword being should. But we all know how the moral brigade and their harassment campaigns work by now, unfortunately.

And I could not agree more about the double standard between violence and sex! And it is indeed a predominantly American double standard. It’s pretty stupid to think one is perfectly fine and the other is immoral.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-19 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I am aware of all this (did some courses on Japanese law in uni and dear lord yeah, it's complicated) but maybe someone else might find these links interesting so thanks for you effort! The whole "Japanese people are all pedos and perverts because AoC is 13" gets kinda old (and feels kinda racist a lot of the times) so it's nice to see other people are aware that there is a whole lot of nuance there.

I mean, Megumi's... 16ish at the start of the series I think and I have no illusions about teenagers being some sexless pure creatures so age of consent or not, I think the morality of the Jujutsu-world as is is pretty wishy washy about a lot of things so I feel like it would be regarded as not too big of a deal in-universe (though I don't mind that being tackled in fic either). And really, who could say no to something Gojo wants? He's kinda untouchable (literally, too) - which actually is the reason I don't love him as a dominant top because that really looks a bit too much like coercion to me and that's not really my thing (not knocking anybody who liked that though. Fictional people and all.).

Personally, I've seen a lot of GoFushi with Megumi still much younger than the start of the series and... yeah, that's not for me but it also doesn't bother me much because, again, fictional people. I just feel like the whole "bad touch Gojo" (which appears to be the tag of choice for those stories) thing is wildly OOC.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-19 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, gotcha. Sorry for assuming, that’s my bad! Yeah, I hate that awful stereotype about Japanese people based of age of consent and misconceptions too.

Oh for sure, teenagers are definitely not sexless at all, and I wonder about people who think they are. Like, have they met teenagers? Haven’t they been a teenager? And 16 is the age of consent in many places anyways, so it’s much more in the realm of acceptability. I should have thought of that before I made my first comment, but I’m kinda dumb and forgot lol.

And I do agree that I personally don’t like Gojo as a top for similar reasons. It does feel like coercion, and that’s not my thing for this type of relationship. If it’s a relationship that’s not supposed to be positive, sure, I’m fine with that. Although I personally don’t have too much of those as my OTPs, because I’m kind of a sap when it comes to my favorite relationships, JJK ships included. So I like positive and loving relationships when it comes to Gojo. And I also agree with other anons in that I think Gojo feels more like a bratty bottom anyways, so that’s another main reason I would prefer FushiGo haha!

And I’m honestly sick of “bad touch Gojo” too. I don’t mind people writing it, of course, but I hate how it’s practically become fanon to so many people. Because it’s totally OOC.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-19 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh no, don't apologize, it's actually great that you linked those resources because let's face it, a lot of people are ignorant about this.

Nah, I mean, even if 16 is the age of consent, I totally get why someone might be not entirely comfortable about a 16 year old being in a relationship with a 28 year old so even if it is legal, I get some might have issues with it.
And yeah, agreed on all accounts. I filter it out most of the time but not everyone tags this as "bad touch Gojo" so plenty get through still...