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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-04-02 06:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #818 ]


⌈ Secret Post #818 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 077 secrets from Secret Submission Post #117.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 - doing it wrong ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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ext_424281: (☤ you realize that was dumb right?)

Re: 130

[identity profile] fruitsgrow.livejournal.com 2009-04-02 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure, they can. But when they don't recognize what they are reading or watching is not realistic, there is a problem; and I've found most people don't get it. Therefore there is a lot of "all gay men have anal sex" or "all lesbians really want a dick because they use dildos when they have sex."

If you want to get off to anal sex or two girls dildoing each other, have at it. You don't have to feel bad for enjoying it; you should feel bad when you think it's okay to only see those people as your personal jerking material. They are people; they are more than things to act out what you want to see.

Re: 130

[identity profile] velvet-mace.livejournal.com 2009-04-03 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Who believes that all gay men have anal sex? Who actually says that? Because they are full on idiots.

Or by that do you mean that some writers always write gay men having anal sex -- happens in every single fic, every single scene. If that's the case it may just be that the writer is really really turned on by gay men having anal sex -- and she's simply writing what she likes.

Same thing goes with the retarded male answer. I mean sure, you can cruise the internet and find a guy who is an utter idiot, who has never met a lesbian in his life. But why is his opinion so darned important. And why should our sex fantasies be the place where we educate these oafs?
ext_424281: (☆ ...what?)

Re: 130

[identity profile] fruitsgrow.livejournal.com 2009-04-03 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
You beat me. )8 See below about what I meant.

...because their ideas about sexuality are harmful to those of that sexuality and limits everyone. They might be fully aware that is not the case, in fact; but they can still only see those people as objects and that (this should sound familiar) their opinion does not matter, despite being what is objectified. That is Not Okay.
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Re: 130

[identity profile] fruitsgrow.livejournal.com 2009-04-03 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
orz to add:

All gay men have anal sex is usually accompanied by strict top and bottom roles that perpetuates the idea one man has to fit into the female gender role.

Re: 130

[identity profile] velvet-mace.livejournal.com 2009-04-03 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I know, honestly, I don't like this kind of fic either. I much prefer fics where they switch it up, and I can't read BL because this dynamic doesn't turn me on.

But I know it does turn on other people. There are a lot of girls who really really identify with the uke in the BL -- and so in a way the gay man is standing in for a woman. It's a kink. It hits some women's sweet spots -- they really enjoy it.

I think the mistake is to assume they are going to use their love of BL to actually influence their real life behavior towards gay men. I think that that's a stretch -- and not enough to make these girls feel guilty about the fics they enjoy.

Re: 130

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2009-04-03 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
STOP THE CAROUSEL RIIIIGHT HERE-

'Cause, you know, bottoming? Is about bottoming. Not being female. Can we untangle that, too? The whole hidden collection of assumptions here that female sexuality = "the bottom," or that female sexuality = passive, or even that being a bottom = a passive sexuality (if such a thing exists), NONE of which are necessarily true.

Oh, and anything I missed. I'm sure there's something. :P

Re: 130

[identity profile] sophie-kaijuu.livejournal.com 2009-04-03 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
IAWTC.

Carry on. :)

Re: 130

[identity profile] kuromitsu.livejournal.com 2009-04-03 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
None of which are necessarily true - not even in BL.

I'm fucking sick and tired of this stereotype.

Re: 130

(Anonymous) 2009-04-03 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
um no.

I have strict top/bottom roles for MY IDEAS OF FANTASY and I can assure you this has NOTHING to do with cramming a guy into a female gender role. it has everything to do with what I find HOT.

and I'm a gay man writing slash.
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Re: 130

[identity profile] fruitsgrow.livejournal.com 2009-04-03 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
The point, you're missing it.

Re: 130

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2009-04-03 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
They are people; they are more than things to act out what you want to see.

See, I knew there was a reason I don't go near RPF with a 20-foot-pole, and stick to fictional characters in my writing and reading.