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⌈ Secret Post #818 ⌋

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Purely for the sake of academic thread-pulling, there's probably a good discussion to be had on the differences between objectification of men by women, and of women by men. For one thing, slash is never going to have the same mainstream power to foisting itself (ubiquitously and inescably) on male viewers/readers/gamers the way the male gaze does. For another, women who read or write slash are very very unlikely to ever be able to impose their fantasies on real live men. (I can't imagine slash has any impact on human traficking, for instance, while men's porn demonstrably does.)

On the other hand, one could argue that any media which objectifies a kind of character which can be mapped on to real people is immoral regardless of cultural context. (By mapping I mean slashed characters can be mapped onto real gay men in the same way that the fictitious sex-receptacles of porn are mapped onto real women.)

Still, it's by no means as straightforward as a simple switcheroo.

Yeah, I agree with this. My feelings on it are actually pretty complex, but I feel like no one should get a free pass.

For another, women who read or write slash are very very unlikely to ever be able to impose their fantasies on real live men.

Stick around, there's bound to be another secret come up from a poster who laments that they will never find a real life man like (insert fandom character here) or how (insert fandom character) has ruined all men for them because they'll never find one as perfect as said fandom character.

if that's not imposing their fantasies on real life men, i'm not sure what is.

I don't see that that follows at all, actually.

What real man is hurt or diminished by the fact that a woman doesn't find him attractive? The worst any man will suffer from that is that a potential relationship fails because the woman's preferences make them incompatible? So what - relationships due to all kinds of incompatibility issues. It may suck, but it's not in any way harming the man involved. A woman doesn't owe it to any man to be attracted to him, and her reasons for it are her own business.

In that scenario, nothing is being imposed on anybody.

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