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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-04-02 06:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #818 ]


⌈ Secret Post #818 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Homefront]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 077 secrets from Secret Submission Post #117.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 - doing it wrong ].
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Re: 130. tl;dr

[personal profile] thene 2009-04-03 12:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the key point here is that BLers regard 'who tops?' as a significant character question within a fanwork, even if only in a sexual sense, and I for one don't feel that way. (Though I think some people who slash outside of BL do). To me it's a matter of tone, or of what kind of sex I want to narrate at the time. I'm in a long-term heterosexual relationship, and there too 'who tops?' is as impulsive a question on any given day as it is in my slash fics.

Re: 130. tl;dr

[identity profile] kuromitsu.livejournal.com 2009-04-03 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
But see, here you go again with the real life examples. What I'm saying is that yes, real life is different but BL by its nature is not concerned with real life. Whatever I do and have done in my relationships doesn't reflect on my taste as far as fandom and fictional guys are concerned. BLers know that real life is different, they just don't care.

One thing I like about BL (and manga in general) that it's shameless about being a fantasy. Mangaka are not trying to justify their fantasies by trying to make them realistic or trying to turn them into something deep and profound (fandom's interpretations notwithstanding), etc. And readers don't try to justify them either (again, some fannish interpretations notwithstanding). It's all unrepentantly self-indulgent fantasies, the kind that's looked down on in the west (even though it has a long history over here as well, but we've repressed it with all our might) but it flies in Japan. This is why Twilight has a hatedom yet nobody minds Vampire Knight which is exactly the same crap.

Anyway, I think it all comes down to personal preference. Which is why I hate it when people insist that being realistic is the only way to go and if someone doesn't agree she's an ignorant fanbrat who should be mocked and lectured. I totally understand if someone prefers the western idea of slash to BL, if you like that better then it's your prerogative, more power to you. I just wish people would finally stop regarding their way as the only way. Personal preferences are not universal rules that everybody should play by.

(Edited for clarity. Gah. Sorry for the tl;dr.)