[ SECRET POST #819 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #819 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.


__________________________________________________



102.
[Hannah Montana, High School Musical, iCarly, Disney/Nickelodean]


__________________________________________________



103.
[Heroes]


__________________________________________________



104.


__________________________________________________



105.


__________________________________________________



106.
[Supernatural: Sam/Ruby and CWRPS: Jared/Genevieve]


__________________________________________________



107.


__________________________________________________



108.


__________________________________________________



109.
[Gundam 00]


__________________________________________________



110.


__________________________________________________



111.


__________________________________________________



112.
[Casey/Perry, Make Me A Supermodel]


__________________________________________________



113.
[Dollhouse]


__________________________________________________



114.
[Togainu no Chi]


__________________________________________________



115.


__________________________________________________



116.
[Dollhouse]


__________________________________________________



117.
[Princess Resurrection]


__________________________________________________



118.
[Birdman/Space Ghost]


__________________________________________________



119.
[Meet Me in St. Louis]


__________________________________________________



120.
[Battlestar Galactica]


__________________________________________________



121.


__________________________________________________



122.


__________________________________________________



123.
[Dollhouse]


__________________________________________________



124.
[Jeff Dunham (Comedian), Scarface+Dummy (Batman: the animated series/Batman Beings/Dark Knight)]


__________________________________________________



125.


__________________________________________________



126.
[Bicentennial Man]


__________________________________________________



127.
[Fate/stay night]


__________________________________________________



128.
[Ballykissangel]


__________________________________________________



129.
[Star Trek]


__________________________________________________



130.
[Alex Alice's Siegfried]


__________________________________________________



131.
[Skins]


__________________________________________________



132.


__________________________________________________



133.


__________________________________________________



134.


__________________________________________________



135.


__________________________________________________



136.


__________________________________________________



137.
[Jackie Earle Haley]


__________________________________________________



138.


__________________________________________________



139.
[Family Compo]


__________________________________________________



140.


__________________________________________________



141.


__________________________________________________



142.


__________________________________________________



143.
[The Office]


__________________________________________________



144.
[Angry Video Game Nerd]


__________________________________________________



145.


__________________________________________________



146.
[Stargate Atlantis]


__________________________________________________



147.
[Dwarf Fortress]


__________________________________________________



148.
[Criminal Minds]


__________________________________________________



149.


__________________________________________________



150.


__________________________________________________



151.
[Battlestar Galactica]


__________________________________________________



152.
[Hetalia]


__________________________________________________



153.


__________________________________________________



154.
[Supernatural]


__________________________________________________



155.
[Ace Attorney]


__________________________________________________



156.


__________________________________________________



157.


__________________________________________________



158.


__________________________________________________



159.


__________________________________________________



160.


__________________________________________________



161.
[resized]


__________________________________________________



162.


__________________________________________________



163.
[FFXII]


__________________________________________________



164.


__________________________________________________



165.
[Merlin]


__________________________________________________



166.
[Amadeus]


__________________________________________________



167.


__________________________________________________



168.
[Apollo and Midnighter (The Authority)]


__________________________________________________



169.
[American Idol]


__________________________________________________



170.


__________________________________________________



171.
[Twilight]



Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #117.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 3 - posted at once ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[boosette.livejournal.com]

Full disclosure: Buffy and Angel did nothing for me, I thought Firefly was okay and Serenity was kindof a trainwreck. So my faith in Joss is at somewhere between a 2 and 3 on a scale of 1-10.

I stopped watching Dollhouse early on and have no intention of continuing with it because it's just not my cup of tea - the flickers of self awareness in no way redeem the premise for me.

Just for example: The handler-rapes-his-Active arc: It's presented in such a way where his crime isn't one of rape, but of theft. Are we expected to believe that if a client wanted a pliant, childlike personality to have sex with that the dollhouse wouldn't provide it?

Also the presentation of Mr. Wipes Their Brains (whose name I cannot be bothered to remember) as supposedly sympathetic? I get the impression that we're supposed to like him, but he is just one giant squick to me.

It's fine if you like the show - I'm a little envious of people who do, because I wanted to and couldn't because it puts me off in a very lizard brain kind of way, which I fully admit can lead to a superficial reading on my part. I still think my reading, though partial and superficial, has some level validity.

[pugnacioun.livejournal.com]

In terms of Joss, I wasn't necessarily referring to the quality of his work (although I do really enjoy most of what he's done) so much as where he places himself philosophically. Despite any stumbles he's made in executing it, he does call himself a feminist, so I think it's reasonable to assume that we're supposed to side more with the Dolls instead of those who traffic them.

Also the presentation of Mr. Wipes Their Brains (whose name I cannot be bothered to remember) as supposedly sympathetic? I get the impression that we're supposed to like him, but he is just one giant squick to me.

This may be more of a quality issue than anything. I think the Dollhouse is supposed to represent a certain kind of moral ambiguity for the viewer, but the execution of the same has been a bit sloppy so far (as has more or less everything in the show).

And it is, underneath it all, rather creepy.

[boosette.livejournal.com]

I don't see how it's supposed to be morally ambiguous - slavery and rape, both of which the Dollhouse deals in - are extremely black-and-white issues.

[cobryn-moy.livejournal.com]

This.

Way I see it, moral ambiguity in art can be profound when it's working counter to a cultural trope it seeks to re-examine, or looks at something in a new way. But presenting the issues Dollhouse deals with in an ambiguous life just furthers harmful ideas about "grey rape".

"Can rapists and trafickers have redeeming qualities?" is not a conversation we need to be having.

[lady-venn.livejournal.com]

Uhm, I have to argue that Dollhouse seems a bit at odds with Joss' portrayal of himself as a feminist. At this point anyways.

All the women in the show are either reduced to objects (the Dolls), in inferior/serving positions to men (Ivy, Topher's female assistant), or subject to the whims of higher men (Adelle).