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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-04-29 07:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #5593 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5593 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-04-30 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
If you think the specific post is wrong, say that you disagree with the specific post is wrong. If you think the specific post is wrong for reasons specific to the specific person being discussed, don't make a general statement about how "anybody striving for adventure and excitement outside of what social confines will allow has to be a transman".

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2022-04-30 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
first of all, I'm not the person who wrote the comment you're referring to. To be fair, I should probably have signified that. But that being said, the person who is making the claims about LMA being for sure definitely 100% a trans man is talking out of his ass, which is a thing he is well-known to do on a regular basis. Also, there are actual historical figures contemporary to LMA who actually are generally accepted by historians as probably having been trans men. The "I don't care what pronouns this person used in their life, I am going to assign them new ones and disrespect their actual preferences during life" twit I am guessing either doesn't know about these folks or doesn't care because they aren't famous enough. Was LMA some flavor of queer? Could have been for sure. Definitely gives signs, by mid-19th century standards, of not being quite the perfect cishet lady. Was she absolutely positively a trans man and literally no possibility of anything else? Hells to the no, and it takes a real ignoramus to loudly declare that she was. Which the dude is, so I guess what else could we expect, really.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2022-04-30 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
I think that's absolutely fair and I don't disagree with you at all. I personally lean on the side that we shouldn't assign labels to anyone if they weren't able to adopt those labels themselves, I think it's incredibly complicated and difficult. I don't disagree with you here, and I don't necessarily agree with the original thread in the first place.

But at the same time, I don't think the original Twitter thread in question was someone saying that "anybody striving for adventure and excitement outside of what social confines will allow has to be a transman". The thread might have been right or it might have been wrong, but the person was making a fairly specific argument rooted in specific things LMA said. And I definitely don't think that any time that anyone thinks someone from the past was trans, it's because they think that anyone outside gender norms must be trans. That's BS and I totally disagree with that suggestion.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2022-04-30 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT I dunno. I have definitely seen that assumption more and more.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2022-04-30 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

yea the pressing issues of our times are definitely too many people being mislabeled as trans

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2022-04-30 12:02 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not. But what else is new.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2022-04-30 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
It is, in fact, a significant and important issue of our time that more than 50% of the population is still being stereotyped to such a degree that, when they display characteristics not in keeping with said stereotyping, they are often speculated to be not actually women.