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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-05-02 07:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #5596 + 5597 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5596 + 5597 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-05-03 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Wanting to see ace representation in mainstream media is really not anywhere near not wanting to think of "unconventionally attractive" characters having gay sex.
I mean, I agree that personal headcanons can be obnoxious, but those two sentiments are a bit much to lump together imo.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-03 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
You can easily interpret about a million and one characters as ace though? There are tons of characters who are never shown to have any sort of attraction to anyone so they can easily be interpreted as ace and it would fit with what we're shown in canon.

Taking a character who is explicitly depicted as being gay and headcanoning them as ace instead is pretty shitty.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-03 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
DA - Nah. I get why it rubs some people the wrong way, but unless people are insisting that the character isn't gay in canon, they're fine doing their own thing with the character.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-03 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Neither of those has anything to do with representation. If you want representation, taking a character and choosing to write them as ace isn't representation. It's just a headcanon. Only a character being something in canon counts as representation.

But as for headcanons, personally, I get mine from more than random possibility, even if it's just a gut feeling that a certain character is ace or gay or whatever. "I headcanon a character as ace because of absence of evidence that they aren't, therefore every character who has never shown attraction is ace, so voila! I now have an unending supply of characters to feel represented by through headcanons!" ... isn't how I operate.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-03 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, but by that logic, sexualities for most characters are going to be some degree of headcanon because it's very rare that a character actually comes out and says "I'm straight/gay/bisexual/ace." We can only base our interpretations on what we're shown in canon, and most of the time what we're shown in canon is something like "guy has crush on a girl." So he could be straight or he could be bi and we can't say that either one is definitively canon.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-03 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt I mean, so what if someone's tweaking an interpretation of canon slightly off center as a way to better relate or just as a thought experiment? It's what all fandom folks do to some extent. I get that some will find it distasteful and offensive to change a character's canonically expressed sexuality, especially in certain situations (and I know there are big nuances I'm merrily jumping over here), but unless Canon-Reinterpreter's insistence devolves into actively harassing or harming others, I say let people play in their sandboxes.

In any case, I was more side eyeing the bit linking ace head canons to (lack of) physical attractiveness and sex *shrug*

(Anonymous) 2022-05-03 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)
No one is taking anything away from you by headcanoning a character as ace.

OP

(Anonymous) 2022-05-03 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
Not going to respond to any other comments in this thread, but I will clarify that by "unconventionally attractive", I mean that this character is fat.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2022-05-03 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
... Is it Guillermo from WWDITS?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2022-05-03 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Not OP
I thought that for a sec, but most the fandom is understandably in love with him. I believe the writers have also gone the "everyone is bi unless said differently" route (idk if they've clarified on Guillermo specifically, other than that he is shown to be attracted to men).