[ SECRET POST #5600 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5600 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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05. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia]




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[Monster Girl Encyclopedia]


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[(Anonymous)]

Does JKR really control the brand if she wasn't included in the anniversary? Also Notch gets royalties from all Minecraft related profits that Mojang - and now Microsoft - receive, so could you describe to me the exact difference in which these two creators "own and control" the franchise they created?

I never said that criticising Rowling's transphobia is misogyny, my point was that chastising people for being fans of harry Potter despite her transphobia is rooted in misogyny, because Minecraft is fucking MASSIVE and also has a creator who still profits off the franchise and actively preaches transphobic views on twitter and you don't see as many hot takes about how you should quit the minecraft fandom because it's supporting transphobia not to. Even you right in this comment trying to draw distinction between them is rooted in misogyny, unless you can answer the question in my first paragraph. Both of these creators have been disowned by the companies developing new installments of the IP they created, both of them receive royalties from it, and both of them use the clout they gained thanks to this franchise being relevant to spread harmful views. The only difference between them is that one is male. I don't see much of a difference in the morality of consuming the work of one over the other.

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SA

I want to specify what I mean by saying that you are being misogynistic in your comment. I don't think you hating Rowling for her bigotry is misogynistic. Unlike the other anon, I don't even think that the reaction to her bigotry is an overreaction. I'm just baffled at how much focus activists always put at righting all the wrongs done by female creators, as opposed to male creators, and how quick they are to try to dismiss support of franchises by male conservatives as harmless, unlike the franchises by female conservatives. Did you even take a moment to look up whether Notch actively profits from Minecraft before you decided to defend continuing to support that franchise, as opposed to HP? Don't you think it's harmful to the transgender community to have people like you reassuring all the people that might be reading this thread that Notch has nothing to do with minecraft anymore, even though he very much still profits off it, and one of the most prolific Minecraft players made a collab video with him last year? I get a new hour long video essay about how bad Rowling is in my recommended tab on youtube every single day, where are all the essays about Notch, whose game was bought by 141 million players and the fandom to which has been trending on twitter every single day for the past year?

And I'm sure people like you don't think of this as misogyny, it's more that activists simply don't care enough about male bigots to take time to research and inform people about the full extent of the damage they're doing. They'd rather spend all that time on researching female bigots instead and educating everyone about how they need to stay away from anything created by them. It's the disproportional response to male bigots vs female bigots that I feel is deeply rooted in misogyny.

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DA

I understand where you’re coming from. And unlike the other anon who replied trying to downplay JKR’s actions, I can tell you’re coming at this with both a fair mindset and informed points. I can’t speak for ayrt, so I’ll just give my thoughts:

I think one of the main reasons JKR gets more of a reaction than Notch really isn’t misogyny, at least in regards to the majority of trans people. Granted, there definitely are some people with either internalized misogyny, or just straight up misogynists(usually cishet people like Vaush person) who coopt and use the situation to be able to act as sexist as they want, and think they’ll get away with it. But they’ve been getting backlash for that, not just because misogyny is wrong no matter what the situation, but also because it muddies the actual points the people acting in good faith are making by association to some outside observers. So the percentage of people who treat JKR more harshly than Notch who are doing so out of misogyny isn’t zero.

But what I mean by “one of the main reasons isn’t misogyny” is that most people treat what she’s saying and doing as worse than Notch is that she has more power and influence. They’re both rich, and both still benefiting greatly from their IPs, of course. And don’t get me wrong, as a cis man, Notch inherently has more privilege than JKR. But in terms of political power and influence, JKR has so much more. She’s made being trans, especially being a trans woman, in the UK even more dangerous through her rhetoric and misinformation. She’s capable of rallying more people behind her with her words, and causing so much more damage with her actions. And she’s taken full advantage of her influence to do just that. She’s the voice of pretty much every TERF.

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[(Anonymous)]

The alt-right adores Notch. Look up Joe Rogan's subreddit and you'll find lots of people asking him to feature Notch in his podcast. I admit that I'm not very knowledgeable about British politics, would you say that radical feminists have more or less political power over the British society than Joe Rogan's viewers have on the US society?

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SA

Sorry for another SA, but basically what I mena to say is that JKR sounds to me like a a big problem only in a very niche, mostly online circle, as opposed to the wide society where the male transphobic creator thrive and don't seem to worry much about being boycotted by many people.

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[(Anonymous)]

I mean, isn't what you're describing just another niche?

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[(Anonymous)]

Again, I’m not denying Notch does have power as a rich man. But the power he has, while certainly not nothing, isn’t comparable to JKR in my opinion. She’s a leader and figurehead of TERFs and Gender Criticals, who’s got a bigger following. Both from her work, and her online platform. Notch does still have power, he’s still influential as a transphobe and all around alt-right bigot, and he’s still a major problem because of it. But him being requested to be on Joe Rogan’s show doesn’t feel the same to me as what Rowling regularly does.

Now as for your other point about if radical feminists have more power in general than male transphobes, my answer is no. The UK is only really different in that JKR has much more power and influence than most radical feminists in the rest of the world, and she’s still a very notable voice. She has more sway over perception on this matter than she reasonably should, all because she’s a famous author. But in the rest of the world, and the UK as well in most ways, rich male bigots do still have more power. JKR has sway, and she can influence things greatly. More than most actual female politicians. But she’s not actually the one literally running the nation. And that’s still a male majority, a stranglehold.

I honestly think Notch might not have been the best example to use, because I feel like there’s multiple other transphobic men that have much more power than him. I get why you used him though, him being a creator of media and all(and tbf, I can’t actually think of a better example, so me saying Notch might not be the best doesn’t mean much). But I just don’t think he compares to JKR. Who whether you think her political stances are niche issues or not, is still one of the most successful authors, and content creators in general, of all time. She was at one point the richest woman in the UK. Harry Potter is still a multimedia juggernaut, even now that it’s in it’s flop era. Granted, if anything can rival that, it’s probably Minecraft. But unlike Harry Potter and JKR, the majority of Minecraft fans don’t seem to have the same kind of creator worship towards Notch. He’s the least important aspect of the game to them, at least in the aspects they regularly consider. Most just focus on the game, obviously excluding the vocal faction of alt-righters. But I wonder how interested most of them actually were in the game before they found out the creator shared their views. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t still benefit greatly from being the original creator, in every way possible. Like I said, his power and influence is certainly not negligible. I just don’t agree that it’s on the same level as JKR’s.

But that’s only my thoughts on him as an individual. Successful male creators still have the system leaning in their favor even now, and they still face less backlash by the general public for major infractions than female creators face for even the most minor(and sometimes imaginary infractions, at that).

I’m not even going to pretend I’m some kind of expert on this subject though. Again, these are just my thoughts. Thanks for hearing me out, as well as being very civil. Your points have been well-said, and you very well could be right, and me wrong.