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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-05-15 03:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #5609 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5609 ⌋

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Re: sa

(Anonymous) 2022-05-15 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I like all three of those movies. I love Deadpool and The Lego Movie, and I liked Zootopia. Although I think it’s a bit overrated in general, it was legitimately great in a lot of ways. Either way, this comparison is random, and has no actual connection. Especially because Deadpool is still a comedy, so it’s not the dark stories OP is talking about at all. Granted, it is a darker comedy for adults, but the comedy is just as often silly than cynical. So it still doesn’t work as this comparison you’re trying to make. But you still decided to try to use it anyways, and it feels like it’s because you just really hate it, and may possibly be a bit quick to bring it up as a result? Are you the anon who left a secret when the sequel was out saying something like “I’m glad people don’t like the second one, because I’m hoping that will make them see the first one was bad too”? (If that wasn’t you, you can ignore this part.)

Because that was still not based on anything real like box office numbers or audience scores and reviews, which were generally positive, if less so than the first. But that’s normal for sequels, because most sequels to well-received works don’t do as well, even if they’re still liked. So that secret always felt kind of presumptuous and smug, while jumping the gun. It’s obviously perfectly fine and understandable if you don’t like them, regardless. Those movies aren’t exactly high art, and can get stupid, as enjoyable as I find them. But the addition of Deadpool when it doesn’t fit in the discussion based on this secret feels like a...personal thing?

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2022-05-16 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
I admit my problem was the perception that Deadpool is live-action, adult-rated and gritty, and therefore a "better" movie than the previous two I mentioned. This is a line of thought the people at the Oscars genuinely have, and they voiced even worse things during the animation panel. In here, you still get shit if you mention you like non-adult animation.

I still remember a vacation I had with my uni group in Las Vegas, and asking to change the channel to Cartoon Network. At first, my friend and roommate made fun of me, calling me a baby for liking cartoons... until he saw Tom and Jerry on screen and was horrified by the slapstick that was common in that show.

I never saw the second Deadpool film, and I didn't see the secret you mention. My problem with Deadpool was that, in retrospective after having seen the three films I mentioned, I realized those two animated children's films left me with more to think about than what Deadpool did. I still enjoyed Deadpool at the time, but I found it overrated as time passed on, and the "look at this trope, isn't it silly" current of superhero comedy became far too common.

I agree on the problems with Zootopia another anon mentioned, but my point stands. My grudge is more with the perception of live-action, grimdark, and adult-rated media somehow being inherently superior to lighthearted works and even animation.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2022-05-16 10:11 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT but while Deadpool is bloody and adult-rated, I personally would call it a more positive-feeling film than Zootopia, despite the difference in medium. Like when I want a pick-me-up movie, do I watch the comedy that has jokes even at the goriest parts, or the kids movie that goes nonstop in a very very blatant and uncomfortable racism metaphor (that doesn't work)?

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2022-05-16 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
That’s fair enough. Live action and gritty/serious is absolutely not better than animation and more light-hearted works. I just don’t think Deadpool is grimdark and gritty, personally.