[ SECRET POST #5634 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5634 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Same anon

[(Anonymous)]

1) you do realize that the Renunciate books I mentioned were published within a couple of years of MoA right? And I literally teach women's history. I'm familiar with the kind of literature that was being created by feminist authors at the time. MoA is lacking as a feminist text compared to its contemporaries, not just to modern lit.

2) you haven't actually addressed anything I said here.

3) "icky"? Really? That's not a particularly intellectual rebuttal attempt.

Re: Same anon

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt should have said I’m DA on last one. And yeah, it’s icky. Despite what you teach, you clearly weren’t alive at the time. No, I never read the other series you mentioned because it wasn’t something available to me but MoA was. And it was revolutionary for a lot of us even if you don’t think it should have been.

Re: Same anon

[(Anonymous)]

This. It wasn't an instant jump to where we are today, it's been step by progressive step. I get sick of people now who didn't experience earlier times looking back at them and complaining they weren't progressive enough or in the right ways.

Re: Same anon

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt again: I just looked up the renunciation series that was “published within a couple years,” and I gotta tell you that eight isn’t a couple years. I personally had changed genres by that time, I was deep into horror and mystery by the time the 90s rolled around. And the 80s were absolutely HUGE for feminist progression. I’m not sure how you can teach women’s history and not know that.
Shopping also changed during the 80s. In the early 1980s, malls were uncommon in a lot of America and chain bookstores were few and far between. Most retailers of any type were pretty small and only had a few choices for what brands they could carry. Or in the case of books, publishers. By the end of the decade most communities had indoor shopping malls and some of those not just one but two chain bookstores. It was amazing walking out of Waldenbooks in 1989 with my $4 paperback and going into B Dalton’s next where they sold only about 25% of the same books and the rest were totally different than what Waldenbooks carried. Truly an amazing time to be alive! Because just a few years before books were mainly sold in small local bookshops and the selection was tiny. Many wouldn’t carry sci-fi or fantasy. I lived in a small town in Massachusetts for a couple years in the early 80s where the bookstore didn’t even allow children and teens inside because the owner didn’t like them.
You’re really still looking at this through a 2022 lens. The children and teens who read MoA were late teen to mid-20s when Bradley started Renunciation. Maybe some still read her work but I’d honestly be surprised because it’s uncommon for authors to have the same individuals in their audience long term, rather they tend to attract the same age group and the individuals move into and out of at a steady rate.
You want to deconstruct only the work but you must consider the climates in which they were launched if you plan to measure their impact on a social metric. Is one better than the other? It sounds like it, or at least sounds like you believe it. But clearly one had a much greater impact and it looks like you are rejecting the reasons why and still decrying that you don’t understand why it happened.

Re: Same anon

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Hey - thanks for describing what it was like back then. (I was just a baby at the time, so all of this context went over my head for, you know, understandable reasons.)