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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-06-29 05:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #5654 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5654 ⌋

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2022-06-29 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Agree. I know animals die in the wild all the time. I do NOT need some extended death scene (where ten docu crew are watching some poor creature suffer horribly), paired with sappy 'sad' music or over-dramatic 'tragic' voice over.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-30 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] iff_and_xor 2022-06-29 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
In terms of historical documentaries, I really like Lucy Worsley. I think she manages to be informative without being either dry or sensationalizing. (Her voice sometimes takes me a few minutes to get used to, but then I’m happy to listen for ages.) I guess she mostly covers British topics, which may not be your thing.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-30 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Mary Beard is another excellent BBC presenter -- she mostly covers Roman history, but she does it in a way that is skeptical of tropes and full of warmth for common people.
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[personal profile] iff_and_xor 2022-06-30 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks, I should definitely check out more of her docs!

(Anonymous) 2022-06-29 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed completely, especially with not wanting to watch animal deaths! I don’t want to watch any irl deaths if I can help it.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-29 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you tried Kanopy through your local library?

(Anonymous) 2022-06-30 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I have access to Kanopy through my school, can not recommend it enough.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-29 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't watched many docus, but I still feel like I get what you mean in a general sense. When someone is able to deliver educational information in a way that is engaging and informative, doesn't waste the viewer's time with empty fluff or treat them like a distracted toddler, and doesn't bank on emotional manipulation for engagement, that is a seriously valuable thing.

I don't need you to explain it to me like I'm five. I need you to explain it to me like I'm a mature, relatively intelligent nerd who has had a long-ass day and is tired.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-30 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I've honestly stopped relying on documentaries for learning and focused on certain topics discussed by YouTubers (podcast style) if I wanted to learn something.

That in itself is a bit of a mixed bag but I generally trust the ones that actually put up their sources to look at the topic if it's something that interests me to really look at the details. Now this is mainly for historical based things since a lot of how events are portrayed in documentaries are highly sensationalized/overblown and or have a lot of bias.

I wouldn't know where to go for non overblown shows about animals aside from written sources.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-30 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
I find good ones here

https://www.reddit.com/r/Documentaries/

Check out the tags in the sidebar for topics.

Amazon Prime also has a fair amount of docs. I search those on my computer though, not the tv app. Works better.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-30 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a bit of a doc snob, and IMO, HBO and PBS have the highest quality docs out there. I stick to Frontline on PBS for current events and American Experience for history, though Nova is also solid for science/nature. HBO has a HUGE documentary library, most of them very serious and well-produced. (Occasionally current event adjacent ones get a little sketchy; for instance, the recent Q-Anon series stretched out what was a fairly obvious conclusion in the first episode into a wild goose chase.)

Netflix gets into YT-tier stuff. Some of it is decent (I really like The Keepers, despite my skepticism of recovered memories), but a lot is sensationalized garbage. One channel I would recommend though on YT: DW. It's a German public broadcast channel and they have lots of interesting, high-quality docs (most either natively in or dubbed in English) about cultural stuff. It's great because it offers a non US-centric POV that I find really refreshing.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-30 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom! With Marlin Perkins.

I miss that show so much. Also Disney's family hour with shows like Charlie the Lonesome Cougar and The Bears and I.

And I don't care that just dated me.

Ooo! And The Undersea World of Jacques Cousteau!

(Anonymous) 2022-06-30 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
comment OP here, literally forgot I left this for a secret-maker and was thinking oh, I agree with this secret! I...oh.

anyway thank you secret-maker and thanks everyone for the recs, I have much to google. agreed that netflix is shit, that was what sent me on an annoyed tangent that resulted in the secret.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-30 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Netflix these days may be shit, but they didn't used to be. It's where I saw Jesus Camp (which in my experience is one of the better documentaries out there since there is zero voiceover narration from the filmmakers). And even a year before the pandemic there were still wirthwhile offerings (like Icarus).

(Anonymous) 2022-06-30 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
I get this. and like, if I'm watching a cryptid related documentary and it starts with the creepy music, I immediately hate it. sorry I don't need a yeti documentary that has the creep chord chime when something dramatic is being told.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-30 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
American documentaries are shite; SHAAAAAAAAAARK WEEEEEK! seems to be what they all aspire to make. Everything is about form (and it's always the same lame packaging!) instead of educational content. Is it because it is financed by commercials and cut off every five minutes, making it necessary to relate every measly bit of information in loud tea-spoon-fed increments?

European documentaries are generally better, especially British and German; much less showy, more concentration demanding, and genuinely caring about the subjects.