[ SECRET POST #5655 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5655 ⌋

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[Ensemble Stars Music]


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[Webcomic "Dumbing of Age", by David Willis]


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Comments

[fscom]

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[philstar22]

Fictional worlds take on a life of their own. And if it weren't for death of the author, there are a lot of things I wouldn't be able to enjoy because I disagree with the author on a lot of things.

[kallanda_lee]

Same, and honestly the further you go the worse it gets. Like, I love Poe's work, but the man married his teen cousin.

[philstar22]

True. And even with good authors, there are things they get wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

Even if it were possible to find an author that you agree with on everything, I don't think that would necessarily be a good thing.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't assume what's in the book is necessarily what the author is saying (or even meaning to say) but at the same time when a creator I thought well of turns out to be horrible, it strips away my enjoymetn. I'd like to be able to separate the two, but I mostly can't. Usually if they're long dead I'm okay though.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm too dumb to decipher this font...

[(Anonymous)]

Same...

[(Anonymous)]

I'm basically amish when it comes to fandom interaction nowadays.
Like, I was legit shocked when you mentioned fanfic along with everything else- (not 'cause there ain't fic that can't be as good, or wholeheartedly more soul wrenching, if not simply better in every right than most published work... aka: some apparently necessary disclaimers to avoid getting jumped /right/ off the bat)-
But, like honestly, the most I've interacted with fic writers over the full two decades I've been reading fic was through... well, actually the same way I continue to do so now; through comments/reviews. I was a stupid angry child on FF.net's forum system, but I now that I think about it, I've never actually interacted/read anything from my favourite authors on those forums or through any other PM/whatever means.
So aside from that one time I added a fave on Gaia, I legit have never sought out personal info on the individual behind the content I enjoy. I suppose it's 'cause I never considered it my business. Even now I just don't have the urge, let alone want, to lurk through some strangers life.

I guess one thing I can say to help is that it isn't /them/ you're interested in, it's their talent. Some people can simply invoke certain feelings and emotions without effort/can better resonate with the viewer. It comes naturally to them- and little to nothing of that talent they're able to convey (be it fic, film, script, or sound) comes from their personal opinions/habits. This goes double for fic imo, since the best fic are always the ones that stay true to the characters and their intentions. So, (and I know it's not the greatest example) you can consider a problematic creator's work as being gone though a filter, and doubly so when it comes to fic.

lol tldr; ???even I'm lost

[(Anonymous)]

I'm one of those lucky ones that don't feel bad about consuming problematic art from problematic artists. Part of it comes from ignorance because I don't research authors/artists.

I just like art, the product. I'm not interested in the creators at all. Sometimes the context of "they lived through X historical event" or "they're from X country/culture" is important to understand their point of view, but beside that? Don't care. I let their art speak for them. I research my absolutely favourite artists, but they usually are people from the 1800 so my moral standing on certain topics is bound to be different from theirs.
If I don't agree with what they're saying or their views are repulsive and bigotted I just say "know thy enemy" and enjoy the art for what it is. I don't have to agree to or respect everything I consume.

[(Anonymous)]

But that's not how death of the author works? It's about not basing your interpretation of the work itself on the life and times of the author, not about how you feel about yourself after the fact if you learn something later that's shitty about the author, I mean. Don't take it upon yourself, OP. Maybe the author is better about thinking and dreaming good things than being them.

[(Anonymous)]

Moreso the idea that literary criticism of a work only needs to consider the contents of the work itself. While that does cover separating a work critically from the potential autobiographical influences, it was intended to encourage taking a work as a complete, discrete whole that doesn't require any supplementary material for interpretation. "If this character only mentions his boyfriend in deleted scenes, and not in the theatrical cut, can you really call that gay rep?"-- that information or avowed intentions in outside material (deleted scenes, early drafts, tweets, interviews, etc) have no bearing on criticism of the text if they're not *present in the text.*