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fandomsecrets2009-04-17 05:36 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2009-04-17 05:36 pm
[ SECRET POST #833 ]
⌈ Secret Post #833 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
101.
[John C. Reilly and Will Ferrell]
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[Cirque de Soleil: Kooza]
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[Sidney Crosby]
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[Watchmen]
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[M*A*S*H]
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[timothy geithner]
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[Rifftrax - iRiffs - Ice on Mars]
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[Bleach]
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[Avatar]
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[Harry Potter]
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[Jackie Earle Haley]
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[30 Rock]
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[A Song of Ice and Fire]
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[Albert]
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[Supernatural]
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[Watchmen]
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[Family Guy]
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[Fringe]
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[Boys Before Flowers]
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[American Idol]
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[Law & Order: UK, and Doctor Who]
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(Prison Break, Psych)
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[Life]
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[Phil & Lem, Better Off Ted]
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[Hamtaro]
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[Gamers II]
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[Kings]
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[Urinetown: The Musical]
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[Ugly Betty]
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[Joel Hodgson from MST3K]
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[Guys & Dolls Revival]
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[Stormhawks]
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[Nightwish]
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[Gilmore Girls]
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[Raquel Reed]
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[FF7]
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[Verbotene Liebe]
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[Wicked]
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[Stargate Atlantis]
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[Megan Hilty/Kayla Collins/Girls Next Door]
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[Artemis Fowl]
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[Ghost Hunters, Torchwood]
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[The World Ends With You]
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[The Real Ghostbusters]
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[Being Erica]
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Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #119.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
Re: No really, ship-bashing is bad news! ALL AROUND! FOR EVERYONE!
And I think that's where we differ philosophically. I'm not claiming that all Zutara-fans feel the same way I do, because they probably don't. But here is my response. Since this is a public forum, I should be clear that I am not specifically referencing k_z. Community standards are stricter and particular. This is also not a justification for character bashing (which I honestly don't find that insulting or horrible; I just find it dumb) or real person bashing (which is always worse than character bashing; people > cartoon characters).
I don't like cultures of relentless negativity either. For one thing, they aren't fun. I want to have fun in fandom: my free time is limited and I'm here to have a good time interacting with other people who love the same things I do. But I don't see all criticism and critique as negative. I get a kick out of them. Part of discussing what works is discussing what doesn't work. Criticism is fun and valuable: it sharpens your ability to discern good from bad and your ability to articulate that discernment. There is a big difference between constructive criticism and bashing.
As long as I am following the accepted rules of a community or am in my personal space, I feel no moral obligation to refrain from criticism/critique/rant/satire/parody or spoof (all of which might be labeled "negative") of any fictional work or any element of a fictional work. I do it to the things I like (including my favorite ships and characters--big time with Zutara, btw!); why should I refrain from doing it to the fictional things I don't like? I am aware that some fans identify strongly with certain characters or ships and take any insult to that fictional character as an insult to themselves. This is unfortunate; but it's also unhealthy, and out of my control.
Question: There has been a lot of anger, negativity, and criticism directed toward the Avatar movie project because of the racial alterations of the characters. Would you ban discussion of these issues because it might create a negative atmosphere? (Kind of an unfair rhetorical question, because I have a feeling you don't like the changes any more than I do.) Why, if it's okay to have serious, possibly negative discussion of Things That Really Matter is it not okay to have serious, even negative discussion of Things That Really Don't (ex. shipping)?