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⌈ Secret Post #5694 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Serialization isn't really the problem; lazy, bad writing and cheap production are the problems. People need to remember that, even if you're making something serialized, every individual component of that narrative should be able to stand on its own - every episode should have a reason to exist.

[(Anonymous)]

But then how will we justify the minutes of silent staring into the middle distance or the stilted conversations designed to prevent characters saying something that might advance the plot? We've only got 45 minutes of story that we've got to drag out across nine episodes, or more.

[kallanda_lee]

Thiiis.

[kallanda_lee]

I think that REALLY depends on the story. Some stories really do benefit from being told serially, others do not.

I feel the issue arises when, say, the makers had 3 seasons planned, the story has been concluded - but the network decides it's popular, and anything from there on just doesn't make sense.

[(Anonymous)]

100% this. Some stories need that format to be told well. With others, you can clearly tell they're only extending it to milk the profits.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel kind of the opposite. There are definitely things I miss about episodic TV, and there are some really great single episodes out there, but overall most of the writing was clunky and most of the storytelling was fairly simplistic IMO.

I would like a happy medium, because there absolutely are things I miss about the episodic format. But if it means sacrificing the deft, nuanced writing we get from a lot of modern "high-brow" television (as well as a lot stuff that could maybe be described as "high-brow adjacent"), then that isn't a trade I'm up for.

[(Anonymous)]

To me, there's a fundamental difference in regards to episodic and serialized TV, which is: if someone fucks up an episode of an episodic show, you can just skip it. If someone fucks up an episode of a serialized show, it's much harder to just skip it and ignore it and move on to the next one. There's tons of awful Twilight Zone episodes and it literally doesn't matter at all because you can just watch The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street (anthology show, not episodic, but the point is the same).

Ofc that doesn't mean that serialized TV is bad. But I do think it's harder to make well, and imperfections matter a lot more.

[(Anonymous)]

I grew up in the 80s with soap operas, and I enjoyed them if there was a compelling arc going on within the universe. I don't think anyone wrote fanfic about them because they basically were fanfic, lol. Obviously the LGBT community was practically non-existent in soap operas (unless we're classifying Queer as Folk as a soap opera?), but storylines were so fluid that literally all the ships were mix-and-match at some point.

I don't know why I went on this ramble. I guess the term serialization just made me think of how you used to see soap operas in the TV guide marked "Serial". And now, that's just like... kind of the standard for TV. Although anything beyond a season long, unless it's an anthology show, is basically a serial. So... are you saying you prefer movies or long-form movies?

It's funny how the tide shifts, and sometimes people want self-contained stories (e.g. Austen), and sometimes they want long-format, serialized stories (e.g. Dickens), and we're in this weird area now where we want something that can be binged, and we don't have to wait too long for it, but it's long enough to spend some serious time with.

[philstar22]

Personally I think a mix of serialized and episodic is best. have an overarching plot but also have a few episodic episodes for a break from the main plot.

That being said, some shows work better episodic. Criminal Minds for example. And some work better entirely serialized. Obi-wan was amazing.

[(Anonymous)]

I watched Bullet Train last night (loved every second of it, highly recomend for fun action and comedy) and my 4th thought was I Hope They Never Make A Sequel so I agree on some level.

[fleurviolette]

Just here for the Amanita Muscaria. :)