[ SECRET POST #5717 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5717 ⌋

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Comments

[philstar22]

The MCU is honestly fairly unusual in having such a wide range of characters, including some genuinely heroic ones as well as some of the more anti-hero type. Anti-heroes really have become the norm. Straight up hero is seen as boring. Look what they did to Superman in the DCU.

[(Anonymous)]

Straight up hero is seen as boring.

I mean, they kind of are? If a character is ALWAYS good and heroic and noble from the very beginning and never undergoes any real character development or is forced to reexamine their beliefs and either change their way of thinking or reaffirm their beliefs, then it's just kind of... dull.

Give me a character who wants to do the right thing but struggles with deciding what the right thing is, a character who is self-motivated but learns to move beyond that, a character who is selfish and always remains selfish but who steps up in the hour of need, a reformed villain who still hates the heroes but who decides that saving the world is more important than settling their own personal vendetta, etc.

[philstar22]

that's a matter of opinion. Captain America isn't boring to me. Superman isn't boring to me.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

Okay but they're still challenged. Captain America gets to see what the current America is and it tests his beliefs. That's development. Superman can recognize his no killing rule does have negative side effects and feel guilt over that but be willing to bear it. They can remain heroic throughout and still, like... Have character arcs and growth???

Re: DA

[philstar22]

Yes, and that's good. I like it when heroic characters are challenged, when their morals make things complicated. Superman is interesting precisely because he's super powerful but he's a small-town boy at heart. His morals mean he can't just use his power to its full potential. That gives him a story.

So my argument is that anti-heroes aren't the only way to make a story interesting and aren't the only interesting characters. Not everyone knows what to do with a straight-up hero. But anti-heroes are so overdone at this point and often lazy writing where just making a amoral character have to do heroic things is seen as enough without having to also make them complicated and interesting.