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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-09-01 09:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #5718 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5718 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-09-02 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt - I vaguely remember him double crossing his partner and killing her yeah and I think that was to contrast him with T'Challa like you said. I will say I don't think every instance of killing a woman counts as 'fridging' tho for whatever that's worth. he would have killed her if she'd been a man too because that's how he was rolling at that point.

(Anonymous) 2022-09-02 07:21 am (UTC)(link)
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I lowkey think they put that in there to make him a VILLAINvillain to the audience, because otherwise his point of view and his reasons for challenging T'Challa would have been read as totally valid. (which they are)

(Anonymous) 2022-09-02 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I very much highkey think this. It's a common trope, especially in Marvel stuff: whoops, this villain's motivations are a little too logical; better make sure they cross the moral event horizon so all of their valid points can be ignored.

(Anonymous) 2022-09-02 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

That makes a lot of sense on a higher meta level. I can agree with your reading; I actually recall a friend saying to me that she liked his character up until that scene and couldn’t enjoy him after that.

As far as it goes as a story beat in the context of fridging as a trope, I’m alright with that scene because the film has several other women who are more important characters treated with greater narrative respect, so I didn’t get the sense that women were disposable in the movie or solely for moving men’s stories forward. I guess you could argue that the women in the film are most important in relation to the male protagonist, but I feel that their characters are nuanced and their motivations are differentiated from his. I also enjoyed seeing a film where the protagonist is portrayed as trusting and respecting his female loved ones, it’s honestly sad how rare that trope can be.

You’re right though that on another level the scene was about cementing Killmonger as a villain to the audience.