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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-09-14 12:34 pm

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Can anyone more familiar with N.K. Jemisin's work explain this to me?

(Anonymous) 2022-09-14 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
The implication is that she doesn't know how to do allegory and I'm like... is that even possible for a professional writer? Wow.
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Re: Can anyone more familiar with N.K. Jemisin's work explain this to me?

[personal profile] sabotabby 2022-09-14 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm very confused and I've read most of her work. There's quite a lot of allegory in it so I don't know what OP is talking about.

Re: Can anyone more familiar with N.K. Jemisin's work explain this to me?

(Anonymous) 2022-09-14 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm. Hopefully OP will come back and elaborate.

OP

(Anonymous) 2022-09-15 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
What initially pissed me off years and years ago was her post about how “the whole concept of orcs is irredeemable”: https://nkjemisin.com/2013/02/from-the-mailbag-the-unbearable-baggage-of-orcing At the time, trans women were using art of beautiful orc women as a way of representing beautiful trans women. There was this idea that you could have a big and burly figure and still be a lovely woman. So I thought her clarification that orcs “could never be beautiful” missed so much of what people were doing with the trope.

And then she used orogenes as a way of reclaiming negative stereotypes that black people were monsters, and I was like “so this is okay, but reclaiming orcs isn’t?”

(I tried to dig up the recent post about allegory, but couldn’t find it. I remember it was on Tumblr, and it was a response to a post about Rod Serling creating The Twilight Zone after facing censorship when he wrote a teleplay about Emmett Till.)

Re: Can anyone more familiar with N.K. Jemisin's work explain this to me?

(Anonymous) 2022-09-14 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably she knows what allegory is but not the fact that one of its uses is avoiding censorship.

Not knowing that about it is still shockingly ignorant for a writer, though.
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Re: Can anyone more familiar with N.K. Jemisin's work explain this to me?

[personal profile] philstar22 2022-09-14 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. She seems like an author who is out and proud with what she believes and isn't looking to hide it to avoid censorship. So I don't think that would have been a thing on her radar anyway.

Re: Can anyone more familiar with N.K. Jemisin's work explain this to me?

(Anonymous) 2022-09-17 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
I mean- Jemison is always, always at the heart of twitter dust-ups and drama tangles.

The idea of avoiding anything that could catch heat would be pure anathema to her, Imo.

/sips tea
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Re: Can anyone more familiar with N.K. Jemisin's work explain this to me?

[personal profile] philstar22 2022-09-17 12:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly know nothing about her outside of her books, several of which I'm very fond of. But her writing style is very clear about what the messages are that she's trying to get across.