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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-10-28 07:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #5775 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5775 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-10-29 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
This is a fair enough opinion to have, but it does not account for a) the not insignificant number of people in majority f/f shows who aggressively ship only the sole available m/m thing (see Simoun fandom) and b) the number of fans who go head-over-heels for male characters who are poorly developed, ill-used and not compelling characters (see Matt from Death Note).

The long and short of it is there's pretty much no point in trying to decide why most people ship what they ship as a blanket statement, imo. There's no one answer and trying to find one just makes you look over-invested in everyone else's fun. No one needs to justify why they ship what they do. It's just shipping.

(Anonymous) 2022-10-29 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. I don't care if people only ship m/m or why and I don't expect or want people to "defend" it.

Sometimes it puzzles me that I like female characters and find plenty to write about and so many people don't, but I don't need to "understand" it. I just do my own thing.

(Anonymous) 2022-10-29 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Idk what Simoun is but in my long-spent experience all the popular anime with strong relationships between female characters front and center are all about the femslash. Utena, Madoka, even Sailor Moon fandom is way more about Haruka/Michiru and shipping the inner senshi than any m/m or even the canon het that the story's about.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-01 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I’d love to have had your experience, because your experience doesn’t represent my long-spent experience of witnessing what Ayrt is talking about. Utena and Madoka might be examples you’re right about, although Utena still does have a lot of Touga/Saionji shippers, and they were very enthusiastic in the 2000s. Which is fine, but does still contribute to AYRT’s point. And Madoka isn’t a great example imo, because there really is no m/m options that don’t involve genderswaps. AYRT’s example of Simoun is way more apt, because it’s ostensibly a GL anime where everyone is AFAB and gets to choose whether to live as a man or a woman after a certain age. And not only does it not do a great job at being a GL/yuri show at times, but it’s fandom did have a not insignificant amount of people who only cared about the tiny m/m possibilities rather than the more numerous f/f, or even the f/m potential ships.

And Sailor Moon fandom focused on HaruMichi more than het romance? That is so far from my experience, but I would love for it to have been true for me. Ime the largest ships were definitely MamoruUsagi vs. SeiyaUsagi. Plus, a good amount of Senshi-Shitennou ships, and Kunzite/Zoicite. HaruMichi was definitely very popular, but it wasn’t the juggernaut ship in my fandom experience from the 90s-2000s. The Sailor Moon fandom of the 2010s to now is different from then in that it is much more of a place for f/f shipping, with HaruMichi rising to the top as one of the most popular ships, and many other f/f ships that had always been around in the hearts of their fans have become larger and significant ships. This is a good change, and I couldn’t be happier for it considering HaruMichi and Minako/Rei are my favorite Sailor Moon ships.