[ SECRET POST #5778 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5778 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Jack Septiceye]


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[The Addams Family]


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[CSI]


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[Star Trek: First Contact]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Everybody always acts like Buffy started the musical episode trend but Xena did it first and did it better IMO, especially since The Bitter Suite actually holds up as a narrative regardless of the strength of the songs (Once More With Feeling isn't very good at all storywise and is largely carried by the songs, especially as far as defeating the villain goes).

[(Anonymous)]

Oh HELL YES "Bitter Suite." I think that's still my favorite Xena episode. It's such a great emotional piece and really, really cathartic after all the shit both Xena and Gabrielle has been through.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure if people so much as say that Buffy was the first, rather than it simply being /their/ first, and/or the most well done/the exception they're willing to make, give or take.
Like tbph, I remember pretty much nothing from the musical Buffy episode. (Giles at a mic is all that comes to mind) I wouldn't knock it for that reason though either, (as I have a terrible memory to start with) if for no other reason than I wouldn't be able to pinpoint exactly /which/ musical episode was my first and/or which impacted me the most.

Xena though I /loved/! There was a couple of weird-ass AUs near the end, but the musical episodes always stood out as they actually put to work and incorporated their characters and their personalities as part of the story along with the song and dance routines.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

Whedon fans think Buffy did it first, or only Buffy did it well. Because they have an agenda to push, or a shallow reference pool to draw on. Whedon fans. And I think we can all agree what their opinion is worth these days.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

i think a lot of people who aren't whedon fans think buffy may have been the first to gain particular prominence; that while xena may have come before it these days the only people who particularly care about that are xena fans and devotees of musical or tv trivia and minutia; and that there were things buffy did that xena didn't (in particular having the entire cast sing - at least two characters in xena were dubbed)

but you clearly have your agenda to push as well so

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

This. Yeah, Whedon sucks as a person, but the disingenuousness of generalizing all the fans of his work as stans who excuse everything he’s done and act like his work is perfect is obvious.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

Giles with a mic did not come from the musical episode. That scene was part of the S4 finale 'Restless'.

[(Anonymous)]

Didn't Chicago Hope or St. Elsewhere or something like that do a musical episode before Xena?

[(Anonymous)]

Chicago Hope, a few months before.

And Northern Exposure kind of had one a few years before.

[(Anonymous)]

i'm sure i read that sweet's defeat was supposed to be a nod to a lot of stage musicals that ended with not much more than "villain exit stage left"

i've seen the story criticism of it before and i've always thought it did mostly alright (getting everyone's secrets out in the open was a much needed pressure cooker release, although obviously it all ends with buffy/spike which... yeah)

xena probably did it first (well, there's a whole youtube video or several about whether that's true or not) but buffy was what everyone copied