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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-11-02 04:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #5780 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5780 ⌋

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[The Shape of Water]


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[Freedom Planet]


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[personal profile] fscom 2022-11-02 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] terrorgutz 2022-11-02 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
The dialogue in Freedom Planet is definitely iffy to me. I remember liking it when I first played it years ago, and would get confused as to why people would play with the story/dialogue off. But after replaying it about a year ago, yeah, I'm not entirely sure how I feel about it either. To me, it's not good, but it's not bad.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-02 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I’ve long since learned to ignore the inscrutable concepts of “good” and “bad” in favor of “I like” and “I don’t like”.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2022-11-02 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, i feel this way about a lot of tv shows too. I think i've come to the conclusion that if I think something is bad, I think that it negatively affects other things the medium wants to convey. and that helps get me somewhere concrete lol.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Sam Raimi enters the conversation.

Seriously, though... I find myself disagreeing with that one. I'm of the belief good dialogue depends on the kind of story you're telling, and "natural" dialogue has a lot of pauses, not as much elegance in the ways they say things, and what's natural to us now would be weird years down the line.

I see a few diverging paths: Sam Raimi, as mentioned before, writes the cheesiest dialogue you can think of, particularly for his Spiderman film, but somehow he manages to make even the cheesiest line sound absolutely awesome under his direction. The fact it's meant to be a bright, heroic film with noble heroes and foul villains, and based on the comics he grew up with, probably helps a lot in this regard.

On another, the original Deus Ex. Something I find incredibly funny is that every single person in that world (from the highest man on top of all structures of powers to the lowliest bum), can all engage in deeply-thought out, constantly researched, and highly documented philosophical discussions on the natures of transhumanism, politics, power structures, economy, revolution, international relations, existentialism, what have you. It is not realistic as all hell, but it makes the world deep and incredible, and makes listening to even the silliest conversation a marvel that makes you think and read.

When you write, you focus on dialogue that works. Star Wars Prequels had the infamy of having awful dialogue, and Harrison Ford told him to his face that he could write that shit but not say it. But then there's times where letting your pen guide you leads you not only to a deep setting or great story... but sometimes incredible quotes.