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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-11-13 04:39 pm

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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2022-11-13 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. But I also have to say: there were just less of us online. Now, every teen is online all the time. They bump into more (unwanted) sexual content, while back then you sort of had to go out and look for it. So I get that attitudes changes with that. I think fandom spaces in general were safer for that because they were more overseeable, and you had to put in some effort to get there. And much older people were even less likely to find it.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-13 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I think it's about the changing face of the internet. Smaller communities were easier to oversee and moderate, and build real trust.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-13 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm still not sure that fandom spaces were actually that much safer! It's not like there weren't fandom cults and I'm sure there were plenty of abusers as well.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-13 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
+100

The things that I think did make kids safer was that it was less common for them to put a lot of personal information online, and those that did find their way into adult spaces had to do a good job of pretending to be adults, which included not acting like an immature teenager..

(Anonymous) 2022-11-13 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, back then all the kids wanted to be adults and now all the adults want to be kids

(Anonymous) 2022-11-13 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
You said it, huh ...........

(Anonymous) 2022-11-13 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, they were. The abusers were fewer because there were less people as a whole, so it was easier to single them out when caught. Nowadays it's just so... widespread.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-13 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
In the older days there at least tended to be moderators who'd kick and ban the creeps and abusers once they were discovered.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-13 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Unless they were the creeps and abusers.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-13 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure, but sometimes they weren't discovered for years. And sometimes the moderators were the creeps and abusers, or were friends with them and protected them.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-13 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Not sure how old you are, but when I was a teenager online fandom was full of middle-aged people. Like, all the BNFs and most of the authors were in their 30s at least. It's just that almost everyone was at least pretending to be an adult so finding out that someone actually was one wasn't the immediate cause for alarm that it seems to be today. That said, the internet was about as safe as you made it. If you were canny, you didn't hand out your personal information to everyone who asked for it and you stayed in the group chats. If you were too trusting, you were likely to get in trouble.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-14 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah in the early 2000's I was a young teen lying about my age and all my LJ friends were mothers of several children. They were cool ladies too.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-14 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
while back then you sort of had to go out and look for it

You really didn't, though. Like, I was looking for Disney Princess art way back in the day and LET ME TELL YOU how much porn I found just out there in the open.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-14 12:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure, but back then Google didn't exist. DeviantArt didn't exist. A03 didn't exist. Most fanworks were confined to webrings and message boards that had to be discovered first.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-14 10:16 am (UTC)(link)
On the flip side, the dangers of the Internet are much more well-advertised by now. Parents of teens today have no excuse for not at least talking to their kids about staying safe online.