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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-11-13 04:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #5791 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5791 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-11-14 09:49 am (UTC)(link)
The reason for most adults not wanting to know if teens are following their 18+ social media or reading their adult fanfic/look at their adult fanart is not because they're uncomfortable that teens might have interest in sexual stuff. It's usually because the adult could potentially be held responsible if they knowingly distribute pornographic material to minors or even called a groomer, pedo etc. if they outwardly signal they are cool with minors looking at their adult blog.

Most of them don't actually care if the minors do it (considering most of them also looked at adult content in their teens) but there's a difference between not really caring if you don't officially know about it and not wanting to be held responsible if the teens have their ages displayed on their profile and they allow them to follow them anyway. It's a liability thing for most.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-14 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I do agree there is a difference between NOT taking an easy-to-take action (e.g. blocking) when a teen openly admits to being a teen and consuming your adult content vs. generally being uncomfortable with the abstract notion of teens consuming adult content. However, in EITHER case, I don't think an adult should be held liable (either legally or socially) for passively distributing adult content that teens need to take proactive steps to consume (e.g. following a blog, clicking past an "Are you 18+?" screen, etc.). Insofar as adults are flipping out about overtly teenage people following them out of the belief that adults can be held liable for the actions of a teenager, this is contributing to a fandom-wide problem, in my view.

And like I said, if you have norms where adults in fandom are responsible if their content is viewed by anyone under 18, either knowingly OR unknowingly (as Discord's policy is), then ultimately it doesn't matter if we draw the line at knowing vs. unknowing distribution; the line has already been drawn by other people at the much more expansive "unknowing" line, which is a serious problem in fandom that is clearly not being driven JUST by teens... As a result of policies like this, I have been in so many Discords where teenagers are REQUIRED to disclose their REAL age, as the server could technically be shut down if they lie about being 18+ and get access to 18+ channels. I don't think this policy protects teenagers and it also cuts teenagers off from exploring their sexuality through relatively safe interactions with adult content (safer because they have the ability to control their consumption and can easily disappear from internet communities any time they wish to do so). A lot of fandom is organized around websites with policies like Discord's nowadays, which yes, I do think is making fandom less safe for teenagers and is something that adults and people who want to continue to engage in fandom ultimately have the responsibility for fixing, even if the only thing they can do here is to pressure other, more distant actors to change their policy.