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fandomsecrets2022-11-14 06:27 pm
[ SECRET POST #5792 ]
⌈ Secret Post #5792 ⌋
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(Anonymous) 2022-11-15 11:02 am (UTC)(link)This, seriously.
Also, OP is sounding hugely presumptuous by assuming that all the celebrities they like agree with them about not having kids, and if someone they watch has kids, "I lost them." What the hell?
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(Anonymous) 2022-11-15 12:11 pm (UTC)(link)no subject
(Anonymous) 2022-11-15 10:58 am (UTC)(link)JFC I keep reading this kind of crap. Not secret OP but as an ESL person that is SO annoying to me. Sorry but I am doing my best to express myself?
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(Anonymous) 2022-11-15 12:24 pm (UTC)(link)I do get what you’re saying though. And I do agree generally. Just not in this specific instance. Because in general I’m also trying my best to express myself while being on the spectrum and having trouble finding the right words a lot of the time. And sometimes I feel like I’ve done a satisfactory or even good job expressing myself in a succinct and civil way. And someone here still chooses to read in bad faith and gets insulting about it. Twisting what I said and getting some malicious interpretation of my words from nowhere in the words or meanings themselves. Sometimes it is actually my fault, however. Not saying that last part is what happens to you.
So I can emphasize with what you’re saying even if our circumstances are different.
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(Anonymous) 2022-11-15 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)But at the same time, the comment you replied to was written in response to others being annoyed that this secret was getting dogpiled
AYRT was basically making the point that if you don't want to get dogpiled for your opinions, phrasing is important
If you don't care about that, don't worry about how you write your secrets
But if you do care about that, there are actually some nuances in the rewritten secret that could be helpful
But yeah, unfortunately this type of issue (unintended dogpiling) will probably affect ESL and neurodivergent folks disproportionately
That said, in this case the content of the secret was blatantly insulting and I think OP knew it would cause drama (or should have known)
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(Anonymous) 2022-11-15 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)This all reminds me of that quote about Twitter - "There’s a defensive style of writing where you can tell someone has spent too much time on Twitter. You write a normal sentence, then ask yourself how an asshole could interpret it in bad faith and use it to attack your reputation publicly. Then you add caveats."
And like, I'm absolutely guilty of this at times as well. I do jump to conclusions about what people have said. But 90% of the time, unless I'm real sure that the other person is acting in bad faith, I try to at least ask them to clarify before jumping down their throat. Even in cases where someone *is* in bad faith, dogpiling isn't really necessary.
And in this specific case, I totally disagree that the underlying content of the secret was insulting.
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(Anonymous) 2022-11-15 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)Disagree that phrasing couldn't have helped here
Disagree that the content of the secret wasn't insulting on the face of it, interested to know why you think otherwise (if it is for a reason other than 'but OP said it was irrational!!!1', which has already been argued sufficiently in other threads)
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