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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-12-02 09:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #5810 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5810 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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05. [SPOILERS for Black Panther: Wakanda Forever]




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06. [SPOILERS for Sandman]
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(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
So anything less than "please go out and kill those damn [insert marginalized group here]!" doesn't count as hate speech in your eyes? Politicians who, for example, constantly demonize gay and trans people and call them pedophiles are in no way responsible when someone goes out and shoots up a gay club? Media figures who rant about Jewish people behind the scenes controlling everything and attempting to "replace the white race" and politicians claiming Jewish people are responsible for wildfires aren't at all responsible when someone goes and shoots up a synagogue?

"I would force you to think what I think if that were possible, but if I can't, coercing you to TALK and ACT like you believe it anywhere other people could hear you is good enough"

No one is saying that, but violence against minority groups has been rising exponentially ever since white supremacists and anti-Semites and other bigots of various stripes were given tacit support by a fucking president of the United States and a platform by his supporters in rightwing traditional and social media.

Your slippery slope argument is bullshit.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Politicians who say awful things about gay people (or Jews, or blacks, or women who get abortions, or insert so many scapegoat groups here) are being propped up by piles of less influential people who believe those things. The problem isn't that we can't duct-tape their mouths shut, the problem is that the billionaires of this world sleep better at night when they know that the increasingly stressed out and fucked over wage-dependent people that vastly outnumber them are aiming their rage at each other.

That second group - people whose only legal contribution to politics is voting - already feels keenly that they have too little power, and they lash out hard at the idea of people they disagree with being able to dictate how to live to them. (On top of all the other stuff they don't want and don't know how to say "no" to.) And politicians and the media cynically manipulate that, encouraging discord and deepening divisions.

You may be under the impression that no one is saying "talk like you agree with me, or be dressed-down, kicked out of any public space, and erased as if you never were," but that's exactly how threatening normal people's media accounts looks to anyone who isn't already sold on the idea that the expanded definitions of "hate speech" are reasonable. Or convinced that subsequent, future definitions of "what should not be said" will be fair.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-04 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
So some people are misinterpreting things because they're uninformed, looking for conspiracies everywhere, and want to play the victim, and the rest of us are supposed to cater to them? Why?