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⌈ Secret Post #854 ⌋

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[CSI: Miami, Burn Notice, Dexter]

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[Jillian Michaels]

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[Grindhouse Presents: Death Proof]

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[Kenneth Branagh]

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[Lady Gaga and Yasutaka Nakata (capsule)]

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[Digimon]

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[2PM/2AM/ONE DAY]

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[Bono]

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[Lost/Pushing Daisies]

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[Beatmania]

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[American Idol]

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[Oz]

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[BtVS (Faith)]

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[Wolverine and the X-men]

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[WWE]

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[Trigun]

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[Harry Potter]

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[Friendly Hostility]

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[George Harrison]

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[Christopher Moore books, Firefly/Serenity cast]

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[HSM]

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[Legacy of Kain]

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[Dr Who]

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[x-men origins: wolverine]

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[Batman]

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[Franken Fran, Soul Eater]

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[Pride and Prejudice and Zombies]

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[Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines]

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[Wolverine and the X-Men, BtVS]

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[Amanda Palmer/PJ Harvey/Voltaire/Neil Gaiman]

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[Angel]

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[Ace Attorney]

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[There Will Be Blood]

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[Round the Twist]

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[Roswell/Gray's Anatomy]

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[Revolutionary Girl Utena / Oniisama E]

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[Little Miss Sunshine]

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[STAR WARS: THE CLONE WARS CAPSLOCK]

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[Heroes]

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[Eureka]

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[Kajiura Yuki]

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139. http://i40.tinypic.com/20gjskl.jpg

I'm-

That's-

That's creepy.

Which author is it? I want to read it now D:

But I still recognize

kalalanekent and her FFN page (http://www.fanfiction.net/~kalalanekent).

Go me!

I wouldn't, her stuff is crap. And she writes way too much of it. Blech.

Winner of HOW many Superman Movieverse awards? You're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree. (why yes, I *am* the OP)

Statistically speaking, only a very small portion of fandom is involved in awards stuff. I hate it every time someone awesome loses to her because all her buddies voted for her. Awards voting does not happen in a vacuum, it's all politics and popularity. Her winning awards doesn't mean she's the most awesome writer ever.

If you don't mind my asking, who are you thinking of when you say "someone awesome" who lost awards?

Everyone who got nominated in both years' awards deserves a round of applause, and those who made it to the final voting are some of the finest writers anywhere. People like

alphielj and

saavikam77 and

htbthomas are at least as good as many published authors, and better than some.

I do agree that politics and popularity affect awards results - some folks from one particular site heavily promoting an author who originally posted to their site, without even checking the offerings from the other two major sites involved in the awards. However, it's also true that writers become popular by consistently posting fic that their audience wants to read.

To each his (or her) own, when it comes to fic.

*headdesk* Misspelled a name. Sheesh.

Edited 2009-05-10 03:08 (UTC)

People like alphielj and saavikam77 and htbthomas are at least as good as many published authors, and better than some.

Goddamn. You need to read more then.

Do you realize that when you say stuff like that, people immediately dismiss your opinion? Especially when you post it anonymously.

You may have a point. *shrug* I might simply have no taste at all in writing. But considering that my personal home library has well over 2,000 books, and my library card generally has 20 to 30 more checked out at any given time, I think I've read enough to make an informed statement. Perhaps you're reading more highbrow literary fiction, but I'm talking about popular fiction, and that's a more fair comparison to fanfic.

Fanfic is for entertainment, just like popular fiction. And I've read enough of that to say that there's a great deal of it which is simply good - and that's all it has to be. It's meant to be fun to read, not deathless prose. The three fanfic authors I mentioned accomplish that quite well. Do I think their work will be taught in freshman Lit Comp ten years from now? Hell no. But I do think that as long as fandom is around and these people are publishing, their work will be read and enjoyed.

If you have a civil, thoughtful response to this, by all means post it. I'm one of those "I may disagree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it" people, you see. But if the only remarks you can make are vitriolic attempts to start wank over some of the most frequently-read (and popular - they're popular for a REASON, and it's consistent quality) authors in the fandom, then you're out of luck.

That's cute, that you think the ability to judge good writing is somehow quantifiable. I bet that's exactly what the Chicago Sun-Times asked Ebert - "How many movies have you seen? That many? Well, you certainly need to be working for us then!"

Just because you can write something that is grammatically correct and has an identifiable beginning, middle, and end does not make for "good" writing. It makes for mediocre writing. And writing that doesn't push itself on some level - even if it's just to see if it can make a well-worn plot feel new and fresh again - can no way be considered good or even serviceable. It's just boring and cliched.

Your specific remark was "You need to read more". I was letting you know that yes, I do read quite a lot.

Perhaps we have a difference of definition. I call it good writing if it accomplishes its purpose - and in most fanfiction, that purpose is simply entertainment. Sometimes people want to read something familiar - perhaps even cliched. If its written engagingly, they will enjoy it. You're clearly not one of those people - for you to enjoy something, it has to be more than just 'good'. That's your particular sense of taste, and you're welcome to it.

I think the authors I mentioned are trying to push themselves in writing fanfic - I know I am. It isn't easy, especially when you're working in our fandom, where the canon has been around for 70 years. Fanfic as a category allows a writer to be a little more experimental sometimes. And other times, people write fanfic just because they enjoy telling a story. And lots of other folks enjoy reading those stories. If they're boring and cliched to you, then I'm sorry, but no one forced you to keep reading. Write something of your own, or encourage your favorite authors. Most authors (published or fanfic) enjoy sincere letters of appreciation from fans.

But the vast majority of writing, published or fanfic, is going to fall into your category of 'mediocre'. That's the nature of the beast - there's a bell curve of writing, with a few greats, a few horrible examples, and a lot of stuff in the middle. Some of the middle stuff is better than others.

*I might have more to say on this, but I've gotta leave for work.

Which authors would you recommend? I'm just curious ...

OMFG! I can just see the look of surprise on our Lois' (kalalanekent) face when she hears about this! I can see her turning beet-red even now. Who's going to tell her? XD

Hate to disappoint, but it's written by coauthors. Who are a couple.

A lesbian couple.

Sorry, OP.

EVEN BETTER

ROFLMAO! Good luck with that.

*dies laughing*

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