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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-12-17 04:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #5825 ]


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[personal profile] philstar22 2022-12-17 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
The existence of trans people and their rights is not misogynistic. The other side wants to say that trans people, specifically mostly trans women, are dangerous just because they exist and want to be themselves and not be discriminated against.

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(Anonymous) 2022-12-17 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
That's really not what 'the other side' are saying at all.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2022-12-17 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes they are. Some are saying that trans people aren't really trans, that it is only gender essentialism that is making people say they are another gender when they just have stereotypical traits of that gender when in fact those are two completely separate issues. Others are saying that the existence of trans people and them having equal rights is somehow a threat to women and therefore is sexist.

Both those perspectives are flat wrong. We can fight both sexism and transphobia, we don't need to allow one type of discrimination to fight against another.

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(Anonymous) 2022-12-18 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
^^^^

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(Anonymous) 2022-12-18 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I have literally watched numerous TERFs say women are defined by their ability to pop out babies--something that feminists of the past fought hard to NOT be defined by. You're a tradfem, deal with it.

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(Anonymous) 2022-12-18 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
That kind of IS part of the definition though. Women are adult human females, and female mammals are built around the gestation of babies. Whether some genetic or developmental hiccup has meant this is not possible doesn't make these women not female, as the majority of their body mechanisms are still set up for it. And this biology has been the basis for our suppression and abuse by men across the world for millennia. Not 'woman feelings', or getting a stiffy from imagining ourselves as offensive stereotypes of women.