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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-01-04 06:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #5843 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5843 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-01-05 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
History will show who Zelensky really is. And you privileged westerners will be real fucking embarrassed when you realise you were making this guy into some kind of a hero. assuming we're still alive, I'll be laughing my ass off.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-05 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
It's funny how easy it is to tell who's licking Russian boots just by that one little spelling difference of Zelenskyy's name.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-05 10:59 am (UTC)(link)

No, not really. There's more Slavic languages than Ukrainian and Russian, and, as such, not only Russian spells Zelensky's name like that. I think you reached so far for that one you popped a shoulder.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-05 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Da

Nah. They’re right.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-05 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no beef into this whole conversation, just a curiosity on the spelling:
shouldn't Zelenskyy's name be romanized as Zelens'kyj? Like, the Ukranian name is Зеленський. I know that Zelenskyy is the version used in his passport, but still. Zelens'kyj or Zelens'kyi is also correct. Throw away the ' for simplicity and it's Zelenskyi or Zelenskyj.
BTW my country's journalists spell Zelenskyy as Zelensky. ???? I'm from EU, one of those countries in the mediterrean.
And shouldn't the Russians spell it like Zelenskij? I'M SO CONFUSED BY THIS.
How can you understand it's Russian propaganda by the fact it's spelled Zelensky without 2 y? What am I missing here

(Anonymous) 2023-01-05 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a dogwhistle at this point, like Kiev vs. Kyiv. It's not like one is more "correct" a transliteration than the other, but using the yy spelling, which is what he uses on his own documents in that alphabet, has sort of come to symbolize that you are actively trying to respect Ukraine.

It doesn't really mean anything though, Zelensky was the accepted English version for a long time and lots of places still use that without any political implication.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-05 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
AYART

Thank you for the answer!
I never really noticed the spelling differences until now so I was really confused there for a minute. I think I see "Zelensky" more than "Zelenskyy" in English speaking space, too, but I probably never put any political importance into that and thus never noticed.
TIL
thank you, nonny!

(Anonymous) 2023-01-05 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah, in Russian it's Zelensky. I don't think I've ever seen ий transcribed as ij. But I don't really know at this point, really.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-06 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)
AYART

IDEK I read novels by Russian authors and the ий is transcribed as ij in my country. Like Фёдор Михайлович Достоевский is Fëdor Michajlovič Dostoevskij. If the author is from Ukraine or Belarus etc etc we spell it slightly differently.
It's all very confusing to me at this point ahaha

Thanks for replying!

(Anonymous) 2023-01-05 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
history is written by the victors and TV makers, unfortunately.