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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-01-14 05:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #5853 ]


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(Anonymous) 2023-01-14 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
...no. That would only make sense if Noah had been out last season but he wasn't.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-14 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair that was apparently the reaction of everyone in Schnapp's life as well, so

(Anonymous) 2023-01-14 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't see how it's "condescending" at all. Sometimes you just know. When one of my friends came out as trans, it honestly just confirmed what the rest of us had suspected for years. Obviously none of us had ever said anything, but we'd had a feeling for a long time so when it happened, we weren't surprised at all.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-15 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT but yeah I have seen some weird takes on people commenting things like, "Oh okay that vibes." or "Yeah I could see it/got that impression."

Someone commented something similar to the above on a tiktok video and the, "Oh my goooood you're head-canoning a real person that's gross!!"

Like... do y'all never have thoughts about people in your lives/around you??

(Anonymous) 2023-01-14 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Wasn't Will being gay hinted at during season 2 already? I don't know when the actor came out but I feel as if the storyline had been set up since at least season 2.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-14 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
The actor just came out within the last few weeks. But yes, the character's storyline has been pointing that way for a while.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-15 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know if it was intended as gay specifically but I did get heavy queer vibes, my first thought honestly in season two was asexual, but season four definitely had gay/bi vibes for Mike.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-15 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
I was thinking asexual too, in season two! I'm lowkey disappointed that wasn't the case.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-15 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
As an asexual, I would hate to see how the writers would have attempted to write an asexual character living in a time when nobody even knew that was a thing. Very good writers could pull it off. The people behind Stranger Things... I highly doubt it.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-15 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
Seconded.
Also he seemed to me more traumatized than anything else tbf

(Anonymous) 2023-01-15 09:58 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I thought either asexual or just...he'd been through, and was still going through, things that set him entirely apart and were more pressing than the beginnings of romantic or sexual feelings/experiences that his friends were having. And seeing them going through this entirely different phase of life without him, being more concerned with these things, while he was going through something so entirely unrelatable alone...yeah.

On the other hand, as someone else said above, I don't know if I'd want to see an asexual character going through what I did: "You don't fancy girls OR boys? Well, guess you're just broken then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯". You just didn't really hear about asexuality until...what, the early-to-mid 2000s?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-15 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, writing ace character in 80s is tricky, isn't it? Writing everyone being ok and knowing the lingo is unrealistic. And on the other hand you get all classic acephobia I don't really want to deal again in my life.
I am starting to think that is the reason I was interested in trauma plot line. We could had get a character being alienated and feeling broken. But with other characters being supportive

(Anonymous) 2023-01-15 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
As other people said, he wasn't out yet when anything was written, so if they wrote it him as gay because they suspected Noah was gay, that may be seen as a little concerning, but it also might have helped him come out, which might have been their intent. Either way it's not the same as Viktor, whose transition was written after Elliot came out. I think you're reading bad faith intent into the Stranger Things decision, but I can tell you're pretty edgy and insensitive for waving off the Umbrella Academy decision as the writers thinking they're so clever and woke, so you probably don't care.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-15 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
My understanding is that they pretty much always had the idea of having at least one of the kids be gay from literally their initial pitch onward, so yeah, probably the decision didn't have anything to do with Schnapp himself being gay (closeted or not)

(Anonymous) 2023-01-15 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
The character of Will Byers was always written to have sexual identity issues. See the original ST show pitch here: http://www.zen134237.zen.co.uk/Stranger_Things/Stranger_Things_-_Bible.pdf

I don't think so.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-15 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, Lonnie (Will's deadbeat dad) brought it up in season 1 and, yeah, that could have just been him spouting off, but how Joyce reacted to that made me wonder if she didn't maybe suspect that Will was. So, I feel like this has been a long time coming and the actor was only 11 when they started the show. Also, he confirmed that the audience was meant to read that Will was gay and had feelings for Mike after season 4 (https://people.com/tv/noah-schnapp-confirms-stranger-things-character-will-byers-is-gay/).