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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-01-15 04:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #5854 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5854 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-01-15 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing is, if white writers would bother to actually research this monster, there ARE Native American sources on the matter that describe it, what it means, and why the tribes this monster comes from are so uncomfortable with it being used so casually. But no white writer actually wants to do that research, so they just see the name and the vague concept and go "oh neat! antlers!" and don't give a shit.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-15 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Writers of all ethnic backgrounds do this to all monsters from all over the world though, why should Native American monsters be exempt?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-15 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Because not every culture has specifically asked that their "monsters" not be written about.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-16 08:03 am (UTC)(link)
You don't own ideas once you talk about them outside your head. Doesn't matter if you are white or native, once you talk about your ideas to even one other person they are in the wind. Sorry, but that is the truth. The natives told even a single white person, and they put them in play themselves.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-16 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
So it's....the native peoples' own fault? You're right that there's no physical limitation on "sharing" ideas, but it's still ethically a dick move to say "this is mine now because I heard about it" to a group of people who have been fighting against cultural and actual genocide for centuries. Like...would you say the same thing about feathered headdresses? Aren't they just a fashion choice anyone can make?

As someone below put it, just because you can doesn't mean you should.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-16 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
When you give something to someone, you no longer own exclusive rights to it. You've shared it. It isn't white peoples only, but it is no longer native American only either. The white people they shared it with are as free to use and share it as they were in the first place.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-16 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
That isn't how legal ownership works, nor is it how basic manners works. That's entitled toddler logic.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-17 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
the fuck is this manifest destiny shit

(Anonymous) 2023-01-16 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
....we can't talk about the Manitou?