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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-01-15 04:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #5854 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5854 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-01-15 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It risks the same effect as when Christians, in order to spread their religion, would reinterpret local deities and mythologies to become more Christian-aligned. Deities and heroes would be made comparable with saints, myths would be retold so that there would be convenient Satan, Jesus and God analogies, and slowly their versions became the only versions. The originals were lost as fewer people told them, with the fundamental concepts and original cultures disappearing.

You could also compare it to how characters can end up with a canon characterisation and a fandom characterisation. Someone woobifies a villain, a bunch of people like that better than the canon version, woobifies them further, a few months later and you've got fans trashing the show for totally logical character development that doesn't fit the woobie they invented. Except here they're ignoring the culture that produced the story and tearing apart what's left of people's heritage after colonisation took a great big whack at it.

Or at least, that's how I interpret it.

(I'm only ignoring point A because yes, you are completely right.)

(Anonymous) 2023-01-16 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
It risks the same effect as when Christians, in order to spread their religion, would reinterpret local deities and mythologies to become more Christian-aligned. Deities and heroes would be made comparable with saints, myths would be retold so that there would be convenient Satan, Jesus and God analogies, and slowly their versions became the only versions. The originals were lost as fewer people told them, with the fundamental concepts and original cultures disappearing.


This. Not all cultural exchange or interpretation is bad, but if you aren't making a distinction between colonizer and colonized, you're missing a lot of the really important dimensions of the conversation.

A lot of African Diaspora Religions practice syncretism which is how they were able to survive during slavery in the Americas: identifying Yoruba and Dahomey spirits/deities with the Catholic saints they most symbolically resembled, for example. This was a survival strategy, not an attempt to take over Catholicism. They might look superficially similar to what you describe, but they're not the same and people really need to think about this in their work. What's the power dynamic?