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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-01-16 06:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #5855 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5855 ⌋

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why did anime turn into...that?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-17 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
This is inspired by secret 2. I wanted to ask why anime is the way it is nowadays. Does anyone have an idea of what happened from highly detailed gritty OVAs to, idk, I guess more moe blob stuff?

Re: why did anime turn into...that?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-17 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
It's a function of what audience it's being made for. Anime is mostly made for a small, exclusive audience of otaku and hardcore fans, because that's the audience that's willing to spend exorbitant amounts of money on it. And that small, exclusive audience has very specific interests and things that they want to see. In contrast, the OVA golden-age boom was very different, because it was a time period when there was a general boom in anime consumption, and (as I understand it) people in Japan were just throwing money at any anime project that sounded cool because it was during the Japanese economic bubble and money was just falling out of the sky.

Re: why did anime turn into...that?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-17 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Ahhhh that makes a lot of sense. This is a great reply, thank you!

Re: why did anime turn into...that?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-17 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
https://www.japanpowered.com/anime-articles/moe-trend

Re: why did anime turn into...that?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-17 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
This gives me hope that maybe highly detailed anime with more natural proportions will come back.

Re: why did anime turn into...that?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-17 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Highly detailed, probably not. The entire reason OVAs could be so detailed in the first place was the fact that they were only 3-9 episodes long. That level of animation quality just doesn't work when you're dealing with a 12-26 episode-long series unless you've got a budget that is through the roof.

Re: why did anime turn into...that?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-17 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Does anyone have an idea of what happened from highly detailed gritty OVAs to, idk, I guess more moe blob stuff?

They still exist, though? If you think they don't, that tells me you haven't actually been looking that hard.

Re: why did anime turn into...that?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-17 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
What highly detailed gritty OVAs do you have in mind here?

Re: why did anime turn into...that?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-17 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Would like to know too.

Re: why did anime turn into...that?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-17 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Not OAVs (which are fewer in number in general these days), but if what anon wants is darker and gritty, then in just the past several years we've had:

Vinland Saga, Golden Kamuy, the new Berserk anime, Death Parade, Tokyo Ghoul, Attack on Titan

Gundam: Witch From Mercury is also shaping up to be on the decidedly gritty side in a classical Gundam sense so far.

And that's just what I've personally watched, I'm sure there's more out there that I haven't seen.

Re: why did anime turn into...that?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-17 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Not the OP, but thank you for mentioning Death Parade - I had started watching it a few years ago and forgot to finish it, but the little that I did see was pretty good so I'm gonna go look it up and rewatch/finish it.

Re: why did anime turn into...that?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-17 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Anime has definitely changed and moe is a bigger thing than it used to be, but as others said, the kind of anime you want is still being made lots of. I don't even think there's less of it than before. It's just that it used to seem like more because it's what most of the the anime that got brought overseas was. Nowadays pretty much all anime is accessible, but there was always specific pandering anime that would make most people say "what's the appeal of this?" and the difference was we didn't know about it because it never left Japan.

Re: why did anime turn into...that?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-17 08:23 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. There's always been darker, grittier anime being made, you just may not have heard of it because a lot of it tends not to get the same level of press as the big popular shows. What you hear about most are generally the shows with the broadest appeal, and those tend to be stuff like shonen series, magical girl series, slice of life series, mecha series, etc.

But to add to the list above, darker/more adult-themed shows that I've either seen myself or heard about over the years:

Devilman Crybaby, Monster, Paranoia Agent, Bokurano, Wolf's Rain, Le Chevalier D'Eon, Psycho-Pass, FMA 2003, Guilty Crown, Higurashi No Naku Koro ni (and its sequels), Umineko no Naku Koro ni, Shiki, Hellsing, King's Game, Vampire Hunter D, Gunslinger Girl, Noir, Witch Hunter Robin, Mirai Nikki, Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress, Ghost in the Shell, Erased, The Promised Neverland, Elfen Lied, Deadman Wonderland, Saikano, Terror in Resonance, Black Lagoon, Tokyo Magnitude 8.0, Jyu-Oh-Sei, Inuyashiki, Rampo Kitan: Game of Laplace, Another, Blade of the Immortal, Darwin's Game, Ga-Rei: Zero, Ninja Scroll, Banana Fish, Serial Experiments Lain, Texchnolyze, Death Note, Akame ga Kill, Ergo Proxy, Fate/Zero, Jormungand, Gankutsuou, Vampire Princess Miyu, Basilisk, Now and Then Here and There, Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works & the Heaven's Feel movies, Parasyte, X/1999, Gundam 08th MS Team, Shadows House, and I'm sure there are a ton more that I can't remember right now.

Re: why did anime turn into...that?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-17 11:22 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT
I usually read and prefer manga, but I've seen (or read) almost all of these!

I have to say that these are great series that everyone should see for one reason or another:
-Ergo Proxy
-Serial Experiments Lain
-Vampire Hunter D (THAT BEAUTIFUL ANIMATION OMG)
-Gankutsuou
-Devilman Crybaby (Probably the least accessible in term of animation, but I loved how the adapted the story, and yes, even the animation style itself)

Wolf's Rain and Psycho-Pass are great, too!
Monster is on of my favourite manga ever, but I have not seen the anime so IDK if it's good, but the story is based on is amazing.

Re: why did anime turn into...that?

(Anonymous) 2023-01-17 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I just wanted triple cosign

Ergo Proxy
Gankutsuo


Just chef's kiss