[ SECRET POST #5860 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5860 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Sure. But it seems to me that its message is also a lot less pernicious than a lot of other cop media.

I mean, AFAIK, the message that Paw Patrol sends is just that the police are good and trustworthy. That's a message that we should be critical of, because in reality police are not good and trustworthy. But that message also is nowhere near as extreme as a lot of copaganda. There's lots of media out there that's sending the message that cops are always good and right, even when they're flagrantly acting badly. There's lots of media sending the message that cops should actively be allowed to cheat and lie and be physically brutal to people suspected of crimes, and that anyone who attempts to rein in the police is a villain if not actively on the side of criminals.

IMO that message is way worse and a much bigger problem than the basic idea of cops being trustworthy. I would even say that, if police were actively under civilian control, and constrained to actually not be awful pieces of shit, it would be a fairly reasonable message for a kids' show to send. The problem is that it is not true and that cops are not actually under civilian control. I understand some people would disagree with me here and would say that policing as an institution is unacceptable under all circumstances, but I don't agree with that line of thinking myself.

[(Anonymous)]

I think Paw Patrol is super bad because it's how people are introduced to cops. It's Baby's First Copaganda, priming them for all that stuff you listed. They already have the lesson of, "Cops are good and trustworthy," making the whole, "and anyone who gets in the way of their methods, regardless how bad they might seem at the time, is evil" a lot easier to swallow.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know. It just seems to me that the worse, more harmful message is fundamentally worse and more harmful, and therefore, more objectionable.

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DA

Those shows aimed at adults may be more objectively awful, but they may not have as awful of an /impact/. This is a generation of kids, in their most impressionable possible state, being told that cops are good and trustworthy. That not only makes later copaganda much easier to swallow as they grow older, but also establishes the foundation of their worldview even if they somehow never watch a single cop show after that.

Of course, it's not quite that simple. I watched a fuckton of copaganda as a teen but that just made me want to leave a coffee shop if a cop was in line.

[(Anonymous)]

"in reality police are not good and trustworthy"

if that's the starting point then there's no point entertaining the conversation

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, I'm not sure what your objection is here, can you say more?

[(Anonymous)]

It's probably the same person who didn't think there was any racial profiling in Zootopia.