[ SECRET POST #862 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #862 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

The Vulcans have always been creatures of high strung emotions. As Sarek said (and has been stated throughout the franchise) when they feel, they do so very deeply. But those emotions were destroying their race so they developed the Vulcan philosophy and devoted their lives to logic. Spock knew from a child (especially getting into fights) he was capable of emotion, he just refused it, like all Vulcans. He grew up in a society which did not place a social exception for dependency on relationships. While he might feel a tinge of sadness over losing a loved one, his greater purpose aboard the ship would take precedent. That doesn't mean being a Vulcan sucks, it means he (and his species) has/have different priorities.

I'd disagree but I've exhausted myself on the subject of Spock/Uhura and Zoe Saldana's acting.

[thelenking.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the info, but I get what's up with the Vulcans, thanks to the fact that I like Star Trek.

The fact that the viewership of the films are NOT Vulcan, I can guarantee you that the creators would consider SOME way to show that being strictly logical in the face of emotion is not natural for us, and that we would likely believe it to suck. That's my point.

His mother dying obviously affected him, so it's fair to assume that he does suffer emotionally. Saying that losing a relationship he values wouldn't suck on some level for him as the same as saying that he shouldn't care if Kirk dies (and he always does) because attachment or concern for others is useless to his people.

[(Anonymous)]

Excuse me for erring on the side of caution because not everyone in this thread is an expert on tos canon.

My point was that, while he might feel some pain over the situation (I don't, and have not denied that), he would feel satisfaction in doing what his species as socialized as "the right thing to do".

[(Anonymous)]

*what his species has socialized

[thelenking.livejournal.com]

I understand. Sorry if I came off as a douche when I addressed that.

I think he would try to do the "Vulcan" thing in most circumstances, but that doesn't mean that he's completely controlled by logic, or that it's always a guarantee how that will work with him. Especially not in this new timeline.

Take for instance the fact that he joined Starfleet over the Vulcan Science Academy (despite the fact that his father wished for him to do so to "honor" the Vulcan way). Being accepted should have been all the satisfaction he needed, but he rejected it after they insulted Amanda (we can assume that's at least one reason) and then left the planet.

[(Anonymous)]

But, see, I think choosing Starfleet was the logical thing to do. More logical than staying at the Science Academy, which would always treat him (and his family) as being less important and less valuable than the others.

[(Anonymous)]

The point is that he doesn’t just do what Vulcans consider “right”; joining Starfleet was a mistake on his part, according to them. He has his own motives and can respond to his emotions.

If this kind of inner conflict wasn’t meant to be seen in any of his actions the creators of the show would have made the character completely Vulcan, not half human so that we wonder which side he’ll respond to.

I feel like entire portions of this character are lost on some people.