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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-02-15 05:44 pm

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2023-02-15 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't find that to be something I want to watch *at all*. It's kind of creepy, really. All the 'cast adults to play kids' casting is creepy. I get why they do it sometimes, but...blech.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-16 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
You must have hated BtVS. Charisma Carpenter and Nicholas Brendon were both pushing 30 in season 1.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2023-02-16 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
The only thing that saved them was that they weren't specifically cast so that they could have sex scenes with those characters. They talked about sex, they dated, but they didn't go 'we have to have an adult in this role so the fans can watch this 'teen' have sex'.

Still creepy.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-16 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
The main reason they cast young adults to play teens isn't about sex scenes, it's about child labor laws. Teenagers have much more restrictive work hours and school requirements, and a lot of TV productions don't want to have to work around that.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2023-02-16 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
Sure, it's part of it. But there's no way that the pervasive and overwhelming sexualization of teen characters (and teens in the real world) isn't helped along by casting adults in roles that allow them to film very adult/mature stuff.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-16 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
How pervasive and overwhelming is this really? People always bring up Euphoria as if just one example is convincing (it isn't), and what else is there? Riverdale, maybe?

(Anonymous) 2023-02-16 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
There's like a million different CW and ABC Family and so on teenage soap dramas where the characters are sexed up and played by young adults. It is genuinely very, very, very common. You can argue whether it's good or bad but it absolutely is pervasive.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2023-02-16 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
The two you've mentioned (I've never seen Euphoria, but have read about it), Pretty Little Liars, Gossip Girl, Outer Banks, even Sabrina the Teen-Aged Witch.

Please don't pretend like 'Euphoria' is an outlier or something.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-16 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Secret Life of the American Teenager
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2023-02-16 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
*reads some Wiki*

Jeez, so - everybody has sex, nobody knows what birth control is.....

(Anonymous) 2023-02-16 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
You're sounding scarily close to an anti. Teenagers have sex. Shows where teenagers have sex or come close to it are usually for teenagers who are interested in sex. It's a good thing that they cast adults instead of real teens, because teens shouldn't be playing at having sex as part of their job requirement and it's better than pretending teenagers just don't ever care about sex.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2023-02-16 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, no. I don't sound 'scarily close' to anything. I think it's gross when adults are cast as teens and then that teen character is super-sexed up.

Yes, teens have sex; i had sex as a teen. Does not change the fact that making teen characters as sexualized as possible (and having the actors be adults so they can do as much sex as possible on air) is gross.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-16 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
Scarily close to anti = A sane person?

(Anonymous) 2023-02-16 12:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that’s definitely true of Buffy since the most sexualized character on the show was Faith and Eliza was significantly younger than most of the main cast.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2023-02-16 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Which in itself is all kinds of problematical: the actor's age AND the sexualizing of her (teen) character AND how horrifically an orphaned, traumatized teen was treated by the 'Scoobies' + Giles.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-15 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
It's weird, because comic books, where you have total control over character ages, almost always ages the kid up at some stage, but TV just slogs on with this "five-year-old" forever.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-15 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly as much as I dislike it, there's no great middle ground.

1. You incorporate time skips into the storyline to account for the aging, and for some stories that isn't going to work.
2. You go the '24 y/o plays a 16 y/o' route because the 24 y/o isn't going to noticeably age.
3. You film the whole thing aggressively quickly so the actors don't have time to visibly age, which isn't exactly realistic.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-16 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
da

4.You animate it.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-16 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
5) write stories where the kids actually grow up in something like real time. I don't engage with it anymore because You Know Why, but Harry Potter did this pretty well, I think.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-16 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I absolutely find it funny when it's only been 'a year' in the canon but the 10 year old is now clearly 15, but on the other hand I'd rather they have teens play teens than going the 'brooding hot 25 year old teenager' route with kid/teen-casting.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2023-02-16 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
It doesn't bug me as much in scifi/fantasy where the character isn't human because maybe the species ages differently than humans. But otherwise, yes, this is really annoying.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-16 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
They should just replace them with new kids when they age out of the role. Like soap operas -- "The part of Little Timmy will now be played by Ernesto Tweenson."

(Anonymous) 2023-02-16 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
I am all for recast. One of my favorite shows recasted child actor like 4 times. But to be fair it was minor role

(Anonymous) 2023-02-16 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
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