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⌈ Secret Post #5886 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm not against plastic surgery myself, but I DO have a lot of complicated feelings about the increasing normalization of plastic surgery (as well as various other non-invasive cosmetic treatments) and many of my feelings about those topics aren't positive.

I definitely do also find myself more and more often feeling sad and a little disturbed when I see yet another celeb whose face has taken on the uncanny quality that is so often a signature of "too much" or "the wrong kind" of cosmetic alterations.

I feel like YT videos that break down various cosmetic procedures, what they look like in practice, and how common they are, can be really helpful in spreading public awareness and making the general population feel less shitty that most of us don't look like that. But OTOH, it's a fine line to tread between informative, non-judgmental content, and weird tabloid gossip fodder, and because you need content in order for a YT channel to thrive, most channels that make this kind of content can't just make the occasional informative video and leave it at that, so they tend to end up feeling like they survive on an undercurrent of intrusive, gossipy speculation, even if that genuinely isn't the creator's objective.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

My feelings about cosmetic surgery are similar to that of make-up, in that in of itself I don't mind it and what people want to do to themselves is their business. But the way make-up and plastic surgery is marketed and PUSHED towards women as a natural and sometimes even Nessecary thing in order to simply EXIST is what I hate and have massive, massive issues with.

Like you said: it's complicated and doesn't fit into a simple binary good/bad dichotimy and that those who talk about it also fall into this complicated space.

[(Anonymous)]

This exactly.

[(Anonymous)]

Just passing by, but wanted to agree.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes true.

My feelings about it all are: personally at this stage in my life I think health comes first, and see no reason to apply or do potentially harmful stuff to my body for the sake of an abstract value (“beauty”). Genuinely, honestly don’t see a point. So I am glad when others don’t, either. But to each their own.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought that the videos breaking down cosmetic procedures would help people to realise that yes, those celebrities are having cosmetic surgery, no, a regular 50-year-old does not look like that...but all that's happened is that more and more women (and a growing number of men) have felt that they need cosmetic procedures just to exist in public. It sucks.

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[(Anonymous)]

i don't think those videos were ever intended to sincerely do that, because at all times you'd have to speculate on people's looks in order to do so. there's nothing non-judgemental about deciding how much somebody should have changed versus how they did. people aren't going to feel non-shitty, they're going to think "yes I'm right people do stare at other people to think about their looks, including at me"

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

people aren't going to feel non-shitty

Speak for yourself. When I watch a Dr. Gary Linkov vid or a Dr. Anthony Youn vid, or a Stephanie Lange vid, I absolutely feel a sense of comfort and relief at being reminded that so many of the beauty ideals I might aspire to are created via a combination of cosmetic treatments and photoshop.

they're going to think "yes I'm right people do stare at other people to think about their looks, including at me"

Again, speak for yourself. That's not at all what this kind of content makes me feel.

Maybe the type of plastic surgery vids you've been watching are more judgmental and less informative than the types of plastic surgery vids I've been watching. It kinda sounds like it.

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[(Anonymous)]

maybe it would help you to know that I'm talking about social consequences not individual ones.